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OLIVER STONE - STONE ACCUSES HOLLYWOOD OF PROMOTING WAR
Filmmaker OLIVER STONE has hit out at the US movie industry, accusing Hollywood of promoting war. Stone claims movies PEARL HARBOR and BLACK HAWK DOWN "worshipped the machinery of war" and glamourised conflicts involving America. Speaking at the Venice Film Festival - where his 9/11 movie WORLD TRADE CENTER is to be screened - Vietnam veteran Stone insists his movies PLATOON and BORN ON THE FOURTH OF JULY responsibly portrayed the realism of war, unlike other films. He says, "Pearl Harbor and Black Hawk Down - these movies worshipped the machinery of war and I think America went back to the concept of war too easily. "I have reasons to be depressed as a Vietnam veteran, and I can say many Vietnam veterans are depressed about why we are in Iraq." In contrast, he claims World Trade Center delivers a message of hope: "In the past I made very intense films, very powerful films about dark subjects. "I did Vietnam at a time when America was very prosperous and there was no war. "Now is a time to go the other way - that's my nature - and I want to be positive. "Things have gotten very dark and frankly there is more terror, there is more death, there is more war. The consequences of 9/11 are far worse than the day itself. "Somebody asked if it was too soon for this movie - I think in many ways it's too late. We have got to wake up."
02/01/2007 12:34:09 PM
Also see: OLIVER STONE - PEARL HARBOR - BLACK HAWK DOWN - PLATOON - BORN ON THE FOURTH OF JULY
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Stone needs to go and sniff on some more blow.
[JediMatrix has made statements that he/she wants to attribute to the entire
population, without providing proof of scientific study. Without proof, his
statements are merely subjective opinion, and cannot be broadened to include
the entire population. IOW, we can only speak for ourselves. Any increased
influence we may feel is limited to specific local “communities” that are part
of our extended identity.]
"Most people don't know much about the science of manipulating beliefs and the
dialectics used to foster conflicting views [that] are used to narrow a debate
and lead things in a certain direction." [Is it your general belief that "most
people" (save yourself of course) are stupid, or merely ignorant? Since your
argument hinges on an intelligent/educated population, what is your plan to get
“the folks” to that place, given that our largest single property tax
expenditure is (and has been) dedicated to education?]
"In the long run it is intended by the top echelons of the elite for the U.S.A.
to be dismantled in favor of a global governing structure that supersedes
national and local sovereignty." [You spend a great deal of time reading
conspiracy theory, but you don't seem to balance that reading with actual
history, sociology, and economics. Your notion is an ancient one, and is not
based in fact, but in extremism, rumor, and scare tactics. (And, exactly what
are the “top echelons” of the “elite.”)]
"Both so-called Liberals and Conservatives typically support policies that
foster the same ultimate outcome." [What outcome is that? And, how can the
same people you believe are “intellectually lacking” all support the same
outcome? Would that be the massively "ignorant" outcome? OR, are “the people”
interested in their own best interests and are merely supporting different ways
to attain that goal?]
"American imperial practices will lead to so much anti-American global
hostility that the citizens of foreign nations will have little remorse about
going to war and killing Americans (it's not solely [M]uslims who are becoming
hostile toward America - and America's intervention around the world and
attempts to push our social customs and governing system are keys - people
don't hate our freedom, they just don't want us to subvert their society or
support puppet tyrants in their countries." [WRONG – WRONG – WRONG! The ONLY
people who don’t want us to “subvert” their society are the murderous tyrants
who use human beings as PRODUCT (much worse than mere “pawns”) to line their
own pockets, or fulfill their own sickening desires to “own” and possess other
humans, against their will.] This is yet another ancient argument; another
version of the "ugly American" rubric that supposedly precludes ALL American
foreign policy but that consistently fails in the face of reality. And, it
goes back to the time BEFORE the Declaration of Independence. In fact, the
United States of America DOES NOT HAVE ANY "IMPERIAL" PRACTICES. The United
States of America DOES NOT colonize, and NEVER HAS! Have you no idea that we
have first-hand knowledge and experience of the ugliness, and danger, and
outright “sin” that accompanies the notion of taking-over other countries and
why we DO NOT “take over” other countries and possess them in order to make
them into our own image.]
"Liberals, meanwhile, often support dissolution of nationality in favor of some
UN type system that enforces the social rights and values they believe in."
[The end justifies the means. The end justifies the means. The end justifies
the means. The Left never runs out of worn clichés such as “the end justifies
the means” because their superior notion of “social rights” and the so-called “
values” that they believe are superior to any collateral issues that they
believe accompanies the “patriotic” notions of folks who support their country
OVER the “socially superior rights” and “superior values” that the Left
believes in.]
"So either we accept international totalitarianism the international
socialist/"liberal" way by voluntary legal consent, or we head into WW3 (the
national socialist aka Nazi/fascist way), so that citizens of the world become
so terrorized and desperate they'll accept any proposed solution that yields
peace." [Have you no concept of the notion that there are situations and
conditions that are worse than war? Have you no concept of good versus evil?
Have you no concept of the notion of doing what needs to be done because it is
the right thing to do?]
"Neo-cons and radical [M]uslims are mostly just pawns being used to generate
the latter scenario since the more peaceful way isn't likely to be accepted."
[WHAT PEACEFUL WAY? TO PEACEFULLY ACCEPT WORLD DOMINATION BY TOTALITARIAN
DICTATORS?? Do you honestly believe that a worthwhile goal is to “give up”
and be lead peacefully to “peace” by any means possible?? That is insane. The
notion that it is “better” to peacefully accept self-imprisonment, than to die
attempting to live free is absolutely insane. The notion that it “better” to
peacefully accept the oppression of a totalitarian dictatorship, than to die
attempting to live free is absolutely insane.]
"I don't support either ideology, as I have a more true [truer] libertarian
view and think that governments should cease to be necessary as people learn to
voluntarily cooperate for mutal well-being and common goals." [So, as your
"true" libertarianism transmogrified into "true" arrogance you now jump to the
position that folks who don't have the common sense to come in out of the rain
are somehow going to "learn" to "voluntarily" cooperate for "mutual well-being
and common goals?" (And what is the point of using the word "voluntarily,"
before cooperate. Are you allowing that "involuntarily" cooperation is also an
option?)]
"Governments tend to attract money and power hungry people and become both
inefficient and parasitic, giving tyrants a monopoly on force." [Just exactly
where did you matriculate? They must have had some slam dunk polysci classes,
all taught by long-haired, sixties-radical, puffing, dreaming, profs, who never
learned to teach, but rather to program students with personally written,
modified, and printed dictionaries, history books, psychology manuals, and
sociology nut-files, with false economic realities, and their own selections of
easily spun factual references. In fact, I doubt that you even have a good
working understanding of the term "government” given your statement.]
Please, broaden your reading sources. Eventually you will come around. The
adage that a liberal is just a conservative who has yet to be mugged, is based
more in reality than wishful thinking.








