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You've had plenty of time. Still nothing but your ridiculous - your word - spin.The facts betray you and your ignorance of history is apalling.You and your friends should stay off the Kool Aid.Sorry I just don't have the time for your needed K-12 education.
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Ultron and Aragorn243... Well, I'll tell you boys what. When you can find those WMD that Bush sent us to war over, then we'll sit down and have a long talk about Bush's truthfulness... Until that time everything concerning this points to him lying.I mean, look, Bush's own Secretary of the Treasure, Paul O'Neil, stated: "From the very beginning, there was a conviction, that Saddam Hussein was a bad person and that he needed to go. He said that "going after Saddam was topic '10' days after the inauguration - eight months before Sept. 11. And Richard Clarke, Bush's terrorism advisor said the Bush administration was considering bombing Iraq in retaliation for 9/11, despite knowing Al-Qaida was responsible. The top counter-terrorism advisor, Clarke was briefing the highest government officials, including President Bush and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, in the aftermath of 9/11. "Rumsfeld was saying we needed to bomb Iraq....We all said, 'but no, no. Al Qaeda is in Afghanistan," recounts Clarke, "and Rumsfeld said, 'There aren't any good targets in Afghanistan and there are lots of good targets in Iraq.' I said, 'Well, there are lots of good targets in lots of places, but Iraq had nothing to do with [the 9/11 attacks],'"http://www.drudgereport.com/flash60.htmThe fact is, Bush wanted Saddam out, and his refusal to accept Saddam's offer to allow US and UN Inspectors into Iraq prior to the war only goes to point that out. The Downing Street Memo will show that the war was not a last resort as the Bush administration continues to claim, but a first resort.Now, as far as your argument that "Congress didn't merely give authority to the Executive branch to declare war", if you had read my comments, you would have noticed that I said, "they voted to give Bush the authority to use military force." And if you read the Joint Resolution you would have noticed that it said:SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES. (a) AUTHORIZATION. The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate And, Aragorn243, your argument that Bush is doing a good job protecting America simply because we haven't been attacked again since 9/11 is pretty weak. That's about like saying he did a great job of protecting America up until 9/11. You don't know how many terrorists are currently in the US planning the next attack. The only thing we know for sure is that Bush has done a lousy job of protecing our borders. As I said before, if 3,000,000 illegals can come across our borders in one year, then how many terrorists can come across with them? As far as I'm concerned, Bush has sold our National Security down the drain so his rich pals could continue having access to cheap illegal labor.
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I'm glad Oliver has finally taken on this task to Produce a 911 movie.I would also like to add that if it wasn't for his movie "JFK", most folks would still think Aswald killed the President.I would also like to add that even though Stone has Balls, I think he will hold back from the REAL truth as it is too scarry for any American to swallow.Bill Maher, who says more than most still does not know about American tourture chambers in Central America under Reagan.I hope he used the complete 911 Timeline Open-Content project managed by Paul Thompson http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project
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Les Visible,Who is smary one? Funny you criticize us for not being intelligent enough in reading and writing, and yet you can't spell "smart" (I presume this is what you meant)?You also stereotype too much.If you are so "rock solid about where" you are,why are you constantly defending your misinformed opinion of what others say to you?And I'd watch what you say too loudly - there will come a time when America won't find it necessary to come and rescue you come the next great war while you sit on your behind and whine about American Imperialism.And how many website links are you going to add to your posts before someone stupid actually clicks on one?I forgot to add in my previous post - Kerry continually berated the Bush administration about its policy of not releasing records pertaining to Bush's past - yet he steadfastly refused to sign the release of most of his military records, the same records he touted as making him worthy of the Presidency. Come to find out (after he lost the election, mind you) that once he released those records, his academic standing was actually a touch WORSE than Bush's record. Go figure. And liberals want to call Bush a moron...
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Les Visible:You've typed quite a keyboardful today. So you think that the world is better under Saddam than its elected government (yes, their government is elected & the world is better off without Saddam)? You also believe the infamous Lancet Report that is totally incorrect.It's a shame that someone of your intellect believes Saddam was good for his people. It's too bad that the individuals that were found in the mass gravesites couldn't speak otherwise, but the civilians I treated by Basra could. I seriously doubt you saw combat nor the plight that Saddam brought upon his people. I have, and wanted to get rid of the SOB since coming back from Iraq.As for Bush causing 9/11 to further his agenda, the included site explains 9/11, not Michael Moore and his sheep: http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=9&c=yI did not vote for Bush41 nor 43. I could have cared less about WMD. The simple matter is that Saddam needed to go. The SOB was already rearming after Gulf War I: http://www.hmm-364.org/why-we-dig.htmlSince you decided to leave the states for your socialist paradise, I hope you terminated your US citizenship. It's too bad you follow the likes of Sgrena, who has her own agenda:http://www.zachtei.nl/2005/03/08/000670.html
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One more thing while you're writing that check for 50,000 (3trillion/60 million - bush debt/bush voters)you might want to think about his other legacies of incompetence.IranN KoreaAfricaOsama's still free, and more powerful then ever.America is more hated and mistrusted then ever.17,000 wounded American Soldiers.Millions of opportunities for American adults and children wasted by 5 years of Bush incompetence.Millions of untreated illnesses in America alone for Bush's incompetence.So cough up some of your "Personal Responsibility". Pay for your negligent vote. That's just for starters. 80% of Americans will be paying the price of your disasterous decision (Bush Vote) for years.You better start praying, along with Bushie. I don't think God will approve of people who lie, steal, cheat, create war and do it in His name. I'll be he even had Reagan moved out of his little special place in Hell, just waiting for Bush and his mindless supporters.
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Oliver Stone needs first to get a power cleanse. Then maybe check into a asylum, because liberalism is a mental disorder. This is definetly the wrong man to make a film about "9/11". A person that thinks Fidel Castro is a great man needs his head examined. If Hollywood thinks middle america is going to flock to see his dumb movie they are sadly mistaken. We are tired of hearing how everything is Americas fault when we led by a Republican President. But the liberals "hatred" of President Bush is deep, I doubt they'll ever let go of that. Hey Hollywood give me half the money you are going to flush down the toilet with Stone and I guarantee my rendtion will outdraw this over the hill director.Sincerely,PeterVallejo, Ca
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Les Visible have fun in punk ass Europe. All the good stock left that dump decades ago and I'm glad you answered the natural calling to return. You are obviously misinformed about what is happening in Iraq. The media doesn't show the good things that soldiers do. I would like to challenge you and every other ship jumping coward to a fight anytime anywhere. You don't deserve to be an American you pussy. How about that...
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Anyone who believes that we should have done nothing after 9/11 is a fool. Anyone who believes Iraq is what we should have done in response to 9/11 is also a fool. Democrats and Republicians both are power hungry and dishonest. We have been trying to solve the following issues for 20+ years: education, health-care, border security, immigration policy, drugs, abortion, gay rights....etc.What have we accomplished? Just remember that on the other side of the "vast right wing conspiracy" is the vast left wing version.What's Oliver Stone going to do, dream up another worthless hollywood theory to line his own pockets?Wake up people they are all full of it!
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Oliver Stone is a lousy director and an asshole to boot. No wonder he has been caught with illegal drugs time and time again - he is a damn crackhead.
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It seems Mr. acorn has stopped his spin. Maybe he's done some much needed research. I don't see an apology for wasting our time. An apology for a Bush vote would be more appropriate.There really is no disagreeing with the Facts.1) Bush created a quagmire and lied in creating it. a)He kicked Blix out of Iraq to do this. b)Blix found no weapons, despite going where Powell told him to. c)Iraq was never a threat or a significant terror player. 2) Bush's tax giveaway was and is a bad idea. a)All mainstream economists agree. b)Even Warren Buffet and initially Greenspan were against him.3) He has wasted billions on Iraq v. other more important priorities. (re-educating our workforce, healthcare, children's education, the Environment) Bush is incompetent on ALL counts.4) He continues with his Fascist methodologies. Controlling the press, delcaring dissenters unpatriotic, intentionally misleading people. Instead of traditional Fascism, his corporate buddies now control the government. Despite any personal attacks against me or other liberals, Bush Lovers can't get away from the fact that Bush is Bad for America.Maybe you could apologize with a check. After all we weren't stupid enough to plunge this country into such debt.
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Why did WTC building #7 go down?
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How does one who accepts the official story that a 125 foot wide Boeing 757 crashed into the pentagon refute the fact that the initial hole in the west wing of the pentagon (before the majority of the outer facade collapsed 1/2 hour after impact) was at most 18 feet in diameter at its widest?
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