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The only direction we recieved, straight from the garden of Eden, was to "be fruitful and multiply".No matter your choice to follow this commandment or not, children are indeed a blessing and the closest thing to heaven on earth.In agreement with other writers, of course we are all individuals, but that does not mean everything everyone does is a good thing, benefits society, and should be accepted by all. People who choose to flounder in so-called Gay-ness will always be with us. So live and let live, but please, when these same folks try to "sell" the rest of us on what they want to believe is ok, don't accuse us of intolerance when we don't buy into it. Actually, on second thought, I guess I am fine with being intolerant - when it comes to error. We all should be intolerant of it. You can't make anyone live right, you have enough to worry about within your own actions, but I certainly don't have to accept error into my own life - nor feel guilty about it. Whether you like it or not, there are absolutes, there are natural laws, and there is universal morality. I, like many others, happen to find it is best to ascribe to these things as put forth by the original author - God - and not to try to bend, question, or rewrite them altogether. If you chose to live outside of His directions for life, you will simply experience the natural results of breaking those laws for human happieness.No matter how badly I think I should be able to fly and no matter how convincing an argument I attempt to concoct about why mankind should be able to fly if they want to, if I jump off that building, I will go splat. A movie like this - and also "In and Out" with Tom Selleck - had underlying messages that designed to soften and undermine a person's stand, by spotlighting anyone who opposed gay-ness to be intolerant. It's a tricky, sublte way to get people to question the truth. Satan, was the most subtle of all creatures in the garden, and he tricked Eve and Adam by simplt getting them to question what God had really said about eating of the forbidden tree.Movies like this may sound like they have lofty goals of getting people to examine themselves and their position of being 'intolerant', but they are simply being subtle in their actual efforts to get people to question what God has actually said in His word.Be loving, be accepting of the person, but be smart enough to draw the line so as to not get sucked in to this confusion of their actions.
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Staying out of the gay debate, I think the main point to be made here is the one made by maphere, who said that only gay men are going to go see this movie. I think that's basically correct after opening weekend (the film does have a huge amount of buzz, which may attract curiosity-seekers). After that, gay men and maybe a few thousand straight women will go, and a few hundred of those will manage to drag their boyfriends. Yeah, it'll make some more money in New York and L.A., where most of us just want to see a good movie and don't get hung up on taboo subjects, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be a $16-20 million gross at most.
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Assumin' that "we're all sinners"...Why in da hell is mine any better/worse than yours?...BTW, when that movie grabs all the Oscars doncha' think that any serious movie aficionado might jus' wanna go see why? Like the movement or not, it's part of our culture..Get use to it..Sincerely,Rosa ParksThe Stevo-in H-Town"thejammy.blogspot.com"
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Out of 300,000,000 people in this country, roughly 4%(4,600,000) are gay.(CDC) Hollywood and T.V. leads us to believe that it is much higher than it really is. I can't even watch a home improvment show anymore because they represent it in fantasyland. Number of gay sexual partners compared to straight sexual partners is staggering. That tells me that there is a very distinct lifestyle difference that goes way beyond simple equality and/or tolerance. Tolerance is one thing. Trying to force us to "accept" that kind of behavior is another. We are having a hard enough time keeping our kids from becomming more promiscous little sex freaks, let alone having to listen to our kids see that "everyone" is doing it!This movie is a false representation compared to the facts. STD's are higher in gat communities. They have way more sexual partners. They prance around naked and perform sexual acts in public, such as Mardi Gras. Gay sex clubs. I know of at least 6 of them in Chicago, but I cannot name one straight club! I don't give a crap what they do and I mean no insult to the ones who are in monogomous long term relationships, but that does not represent the mainstream. And college "EURO" proffessors aren't helping either!College graduates age 65 and older are more than three times as likely to favor gay marriage than are seniors with less education (33% to 9%). Among those age 50-64, college grads are twice as likely to favor gay marriage as their less educated counterparts (43% to 21%). By comparison, education makes relatively little difference among those under age 30, where support for gay marriage runs highest. Since younger generations are more likely to have college degrees than older, this education gap contributes to the overall size of the generation gap on gay marriage. http://pewforum.org/docs/index.php?DocID=39
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To all you left wing liberal socialists.. not all Bible Thumpers,as you refer to them as,are worried about the gay life style.If you would open your ear holes you would hear they do not like homosexuallity but harbor no aggresive or hateful feelings for the person. You are not that important there are a lot of other things more important then a persons bedroom partner preferences. I am a straight man and I have no quarell with the gay community other than the fact they want preferential traetment because of their sexual preferences.I personally know several gay couples who have provided for each others future security and other financial considerations with out worrying about someone giving it to them like responsible,reasonably people should do.I am so sick and tiered of hearing that if I don't agree with the gay movement I am a homaphob,or if I don't agree with a minorty leadership then I am racist. Grow up and stop hollering and kicking your feet like little children take responsibility for your self and your own actions and stop blaming us for your problems.
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Response to "Idontchoosetobegayijustam" bible litterally....?Jesus gave us the New Testament and fulfilled the Jewish law. Jesus is the fulfillment of the laws intended purpose and revelation. Jesus is the true Temple. Jesus became the Lamb instead of real burnt offerings. All things clean and unclean are now the things that come out of the mouth and not those things that go into the mouth. The Sabbath day is in Christ and he is our REST (Sabbath means "rest"). And... yes the New Testament frowns on seeking to glorify yourself with jewlery, costly clothing and fancy hair doo's (We believe these things in our family).But there are a lot of Christians who are worldly and seek to look, dress, and talk like worldy people. Please don't let the blind lead you into a ditch. Look at Jesus and the apostles for an example of truth.I could quote scripture, but I do not think you would really care... because you are just quoting parts of scripture to create a smoke screen to justify being a homosexual.Jesus said "I don't judge you, but the WORD I have spoken to you will judge you in that day". So, I feel the same way. I just tell you the obvious truth that God is not pleased and condemns homosexual behavior in the scriptures. Any honest student of scripture knows that simple teaching. It is not an honest statement to even suggest that God endorses the gay life style in scripture.Please quote the scriptures when you are ready to believe them and live by them. Until then, you have no right to quote something you don't believe in and just want to use to justify an abomination.God loves all the little boys and girls who cry out to him for healing and repentence. God does not like folks who twist HIS WORD to say something HE never meant. In Christ stead, I emplore you to leave HIS WORD out of this. It would be wise to let God be Holy and His WORD be Holy. He loves you and wants the best for you. He says to repent because it the door to our freedom.Eastexas
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Gay sex isn't sex, it's sex play. I always though when you loved someone, you wanted the best for them. It isn't necessary to have sex with them. This sex play offers no chance for children--the best thing in life.Sexual and social experiments involving children is not a loving thing to do to children.O.
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Similarly, we don't care if you're straight, but don't flaunt it and put it in our face in public and force us to accept your lifestyle. If you want to be straight, that's fine. But please, ACT gay in public. There are children watching!As for poster "leftistdestroyer", I'm not even going to ask how you KNOW there are six gay sex clubs in Chicago, but you don't know of any straight ones!
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I will NOT see BACKDOOR cowboys. Pure propaganda for the extreme left wing.
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To Imassuming...Hey, good to talk with you again. I read your comments and I wanted to respond about how many of us straight men respond when we see gay men kissing or whatever.It is disgusting to me, not because the people are disgusting, but the act is so opposite of what of my personal desires. It's like watching people eat cow brains on "FEAR FACTOR", it repulses me. I was not taught to hate gays and as I mentioned before I have good friends that I frequently get together with who are gay. But my response to gay sex is negative. Even though I can cognitively realize that they enjoy it and even love each other there's not an ounce of my being that is drawn to what you would consider the most attractive man in the world let alone the idea of being intimate with a him...yuck. I imagine you have the same perspective towards women.This is why I don't want to see the movie. I don't relate to two men romantically loving each other and I have no desire to watch them have sex. I don't want to see King Kong either as I don't relate to an ape romantically involved with a woman.Bottom line, it is not immoral nor intolerant to be disgusted by things that are repulsive to you. Watching humans eat cow brains is not interesting just as watching men kiss is not interesting to me.This is why I think the movie is going to tank. Straight men genuinely don't want to see other men kissing even if they're tolerant, and most straight women aren't interested in it either, no matter how the movie is framed, everybody knows it's for the gay community. I'm disappointed that it received so many Oscar nods as it seems more appearant that Hollywood is full of their own ideology. I realize I've not seen the movie and not necessarily in position to question them, but it's hard not to view Hollywood as a political machine.Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed the movie, please don't take it personally if we don't enjoy gay sex, it just doesn't appeal straight men.
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You know what I think? I don't think it matters what I think. Find a story from a mediocre magazine on a subject that most people don’t care to hear about. Make a movie. If the movie makes money then they will make more movies on the same subject. If the movie tanks then it is obvious that the American public is not interested in movies about fictitious homosexual cowboys from an author from Connecticut in the New Yorker magazine. I am sure that she probably interviewed many homosexual cowboys for research. Actually she says that the story began as an examination of country homophobia in the land of the Great Pure Noble Cowboy. So what better way to deride the myth than to cast the characters as homosexual lovers? Reminds me of the Last Temptation of Christ, what better way to destroy a myth than to portray the mythological person as having the very faults that most Americans find offensive. Hollywood does that a lot and I expect they will do it again. I am very curious to see how they manage to destroy Jan Pavel when they do a movie about him.
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it seems unreasonable to demand that the 96% majority except and even embrace a lifestyle that if it were not for the extremely liberal media, most of us would not even know about, and now a big screen media movie? well i vote that the 4% go and enjoy themselves, have a blast! i can't imagine the pin dropping silence as you all watch 2 men have sex with eachother. tolerance? if you are tolerant then you will tolerate my opinion and the opinions of the 96% and just accept that most of us are not going to spend our hard earned money on pornography or accept a lifestyle that only underminds our community.
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I usually like Ang Lee, but he's not getting any $ from me on this one.As Jay Leno said 12-6, the original title wasn't 'Brokeback Mountain' - it was 'City Lickers'.If it's a good thing according to the fascist, no-free-speech-unless-it's-for-us hate-mongers of GLAAD, it's no good for me.
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For someone who dosen't waste time on people like me, you sure had a lot to say! LOLGLESN is about kids? Only gay kids right? It is about indoctrinating other kids. It has nothing to do with gay kids, it has more to do with forcing other kids to support the gay lifestyles. It has more to do with government forcing parents of straight kids to force their kids to accept gay kids. And they even demand it in private religious schools! And t4eaching sex is not a schools job, stay the hell out of it! We all know how it works. They get the government to make whatever laws they have to and then society eventaully changes. The government should just stay the hell out of my business.The people in African tribes believe that having sex with a baby will cure AIDS. They don't know enogh to use condoms or stop having sex. The gays do, but they disregard it for their lust for sexual gratification. And straight drug addicts, well, they are drug addicts, it goes with the territory. And you can also side with the idiot shrinks who claim that they have a disease and that it is not their fault. Drugs were a disease before they started doing drugs, was it not?54% of women who have abortions claim to have been using birth control. 47% had two or more abortions. I do not watch T.V. for the smut that it shows. You are preaching to the chior here pal. But you are right, people are desenitized. And we have more teachers sleeping with their kids now. We have teens who say that oral sex isn't sex and that STD's cannot be contracted through it. We have out of line abortions. We have MTV and all their hoes. And it is all being done by Liberal open sexuality advocates. I am against them more than I am gays. And sex is only a gift, if it creates something like..oh..life! Every animal can have sex. But it is a gift when it bears a life. Jerking off feels good, but I wouldn't call it a gift.Marriage and children. Kids with gay parents. They sure weren't concieved by them that much I know. I really don't care. Just don't take marriage that was meant for man and women and give it to gay's. It is a slap, an insult, and disregard to the vast amjority of the country. And it is equally as bad for people who get divorced. Again, a product of Liberalism. What else do they want to f**k up?Kids and sex. I am thrilled to know that you would advocate a 10 year old having sex. To let a kid have control over something like that is sick and irresponsible. Teaching them the dangers of it may help many of them to not do it. To say simply to do what you want, is a poor choice. T.V sure as hell dosen't help. As well as parents being concerned with their own life's pleasures versus their kids well being it pathetic. Again, Liberalism.Sexism and bigotry? The idea of a cowboy being a man's man is the general publics perception. And it has been for years. This movie trashes it. And it is done intentionally. And I think that knowing the author, gives us insight into why she would write this book. And it does. She is a lesbian. She is from the East Coast. She has gratuated from Liberal universities. She is a Liberal. And Liberals have agendas sure as conservatives have agendas. Liberals have turned sex into a free for all. Liberals have killed 45 million lives in 32 years. Liberals have wrecked marriage. Wrecked commitment. Wrecked families. Liberals made it possible for terrorists to attack us. Liberals are pushing the theft of marriage(like we don't have our own problems with it because of them). They have seperated different peoples into groups, to highlight the differences(african americans, asian americans, mexican americans). They are taking our gun right's away. Our private property right's away. They use their power and influence to indoctrinate our kids in schools. And I cannot even state the obvious when calling a black guy a black guy, without being labeled a rascist! But blacks can make a movie with two guys being dressed up as stereotypical white girls!? See the hypocricy? Hell, now they are saying that you can't even smoke in your own home if you have a foster child! They are goin gto tell me what I can or can't do in my own house!?!? f**k that! And it has nothing to with your argument about the privacy of your bedroom. I give a crap where you shove your show, just leave marriage alone! So yeah, I think that it is very important to know who wrote this book, and then I can figure out why.And your last comments. So in order to lessen the poulation we must advocate homosexuality. That makes perfect sense. But I know, that you know where I am going to go with this right? Yep, you guessed it, beastiality. LOL! It takes care of the sexual urges and will not concieve. That is until science figures that one out! LOL!
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I don't agree or disagree with any comments, but I won't see 2 guys.. Here's my idea - Brokeback Mountain 2 - This time, it's 2-10 hot cowgirls. No arguments there!P.S. Carl really loved this movie. He has the screensaver and everything.
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To_Miss_Chant,Eastexas is correct about the AIDS/Gay numbers in America. "Of newly diagnosed HIV infections in the United States during 2003, CDC estimated that approximately 63% were among men who were infected through sexual contact with other men." Plus any other AIDS cases such as drug needles and mother passing it on to their babies, might have something to do with morality as well, no? It is not moral to do drugs, have gay sex, and cheat on your spouse. And all of these have spread AIDS. With Gay sex as the leading cause. I am no Bible thumper, but I can see the common link.Perhaps you should stop trying to ignore the facts to support your bias for gay sex. But whatever, it dosen't affect me one bit.First of all, I do not HATE gay people. I probably hate more straight white people than I do any other race or sexual preference. But, in my absolute right to "free speech" I am entitled to say that I find it grotesque and disgusting. Unatural and pointless. Immoral and hedonistic. I Believe that is it not O.K. for gay's to get married. Marriage does not belong to gay's. I would support a civil union if I had any belief that they wouldn't call it marriage after the fact. Which they will. In some places, they are even calling the guardians of a baby, of an artificially inseminated,"lesbian" woman, Parent A and Parent B. And in those same places, they are even calling hetero parents who actually concieved their own child, Parent A and Parent B. You know, to make everyone "equal"! So don't tell me that gay marriage will not change anything, it already has.Plus, one of the arguments in favor of gay marriage, was that they would not divorce. There would be no custody battles. That they are, in fact, better parents than natural parents. While some of them may be, there have already been nasty divorce and custody battles with gay "partners". Even more kids have to go through that crap. The same people who actually lit the fire under high divorce rates are the same ones who are pushing gay marriage now! In the last 40 years we have seen how they have wrecked my society and do they honestly expect me to go along with this disaster?? Even Bin Laden say's so! Lack of morality is one of many reasons he listed as to why he attacked us. Not that anyone deserves to die for it, just him! http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/660zypwj.aspYou are a teenager. You are young and have not been around the block yet. Well, sexually you probably have. The ACLU in the U.S. say's that kids should be able to make up their own mids regarding when to have sex. Have you ever heard the phrase: "Don't trust anyone over 30"? The young teenage and college hippy kids in the sixties and seventies used to say that. While they were doing drugs out the yin yang, f**king anything that moved, and advocating "do whatever the hell you want" with no rules for a society.This movie isn't about love, it is about a gay agenda. It takes a man's man, and turns it gay. What we all ove about cowboy's were they were rough and tough, killed the bad guy and rode off into the sunset with his woman. They have just attacked that. And I don't know if the setting for this movie, Wyoming and Texas have anything to do with the fact that Bush is from Texas and Cheney is from Wyoming, just something I have noticed. I have gone to the author of Broke Dick mountain's website. She is from the Liberal east coast. She has been divorced a few times and I don't believe she is married anymore, she didn't say. And if you look at her picture, I would bet a million dollars that she is gay. I could be wrong, but from the information that I found on her site, that is where I would put my money.Plus the movie opened in all major Liberal cities, including, you guessed it, San Fransisco. I wonder why?
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmm,Nice try. Pulling the "You must be gay too!" crap. I don't know where you live, but there is a section of the city, that when you drive thorugh it, you KNOW you are in gay town. Actually it is called Boy's Town. There are no straight clubs in the city called "Ocean Snatch" "Cat IN mouse, or How the West Was Wet. Most gay clubs, I suspect, you can find people doing the nasty right there in the club! Everyone has heard the stories, like f**king in the forest preserves. A public forest preserve and they go out in it and f**k. I hope no kids are flying their kites or on a nature walk! I look into many subjects, and this is one of them. I wouldn't really care if they weren't so demanding, flagrent, and flambouyant. But the fact is, is that not even the gay's know what kind of an outcome gay marriage will have on society, but they sure act like they do. Look into the Scandanavian study.
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To Angelo, 9 & 1/2 Weeks was not a movie about love butof lust of sex. A lot of people confuse lust/physical attractionwith love. For myself I have lust attraction toward others andeven have the occasional dream about others, those are fun!!I can see a certain gesture, smile or body part on a person and thelust juices start to boil!!! But this is only the inner animal and thatis were it stays, inside. My heart belongs to my sweet spouse and while sex is an importantpart, it is not the main part. How many times have you picked upa super hot person, had incredible sex and then take the morningafter look only to find out you can't stand the person you just hada hump festival with?? Lust is a short term condition while loveis very long term!! As for 9 & 1/2 weeks and Kim B. she is adefinite object of lust, very hot. But for a long term relations, I'llpass. After all look at who she married!!Fisher
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This movie is going to tank. No one but gay men like to watch other men kissing. This is not an issue of tolerance, gay men do not have a natural appeal to non-gay people. People can be educated to be tolerant but it doesn't mean they're going to like it or pay money to see it no matter how Hollywood spins it (love story, beautiful scenery blah blah blah).
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Hmmm... These comments read like a Jerri Springer show transcript. I had to write something just because I looked up at the date and time and realized that these comments were written TODAY! and not 40 years ago. Let's discuss briefly the idea of unacknowledged privelage: When you go to a movie theater, let's say on a date, and you have so many movies to choose from, how many of those movies will feature straight people? All of them? That's right! How many have ever featured two mainstream actors in a mainstream movie with a credible director? BUTTLOADS? That's right! Gay people get ONE, count 'em, ONE movie and the 'Christian' types are already screaming out SODOMITES and playing the child-rearing card (as if making a baby is that difficult for anyone to do)... and I'm sorry, but the guy who thinks that the gays like to drink each other's urine??? That must have been some drunken, late-night internet research (wink wink). The point is, the Christians are still King of the Mountain, regardless of how they wanna "spin" it, and bitching and whining about this movie makes them look like spoiled brats, not us. Give your backlash a rest.
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This is a sorry attempt to generalize the Gay and Lesbian agenda to the American people. When are you going to learn that this is a insult to the American Family and pressing your agenda will only dig a deeper hole for all involved with the American public. To force feed your agenda to the American Family is just darn right repulsing or is it just to stick a finger in the eye of main stream, hard working American Families trying to raise kids with morals and a respect for GOD! I will do my part in condemning this propaganda.
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To all,Neither my eyes, nor the eyes of my family will be viewing this movie. Unfortunately, I am forced to hear of the plot and the uproar it is causing. Praise God there is an uproar. Our country still has morals.First things first. To those of you who do not believe in Jesus Christ, or believe what he said...do not under any circumstances quote Scripture and expect those who do believe it to accept your reasoning behind it. It would be like a Christian quoting a witch encantation and telling you to live by it.We do believe we are called to love, but there are things that are wrong. Having a relationship or any sexual act with someone of the same sex is wrong. Just as is stealing, killing, cheating, lying, etc. All sin is equal, however there are different consequences. Do I watch the typical primetime shows in my home? No. I do not expose myself nor my family to it. Am I perfect? No, however I take responsibility when I do mess up, admit it, ask for forgiveness to those I've wronged. One thing is clear, I will never be ashamed to stand for God's Word.As for the movie, our media (mainstream and other) would have us believe there is a great "movement" towards accepting and embracing the homosexual lifestyle. Not true. Why make a spectacle of sin?You have the choice to watch or not watch this movie. Unfortunately your choice will be viewed by others as either condemning homosexual behavior or accepting it. If you care to watch the movie, know what you are opening yourself up to. The gay lifestyle is not one of ease, nor will it ever be.From a "Bible-thumping" American who has homosexuals in his family that he loves.
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OK... let me get this straight. Two guys in this movie bypass their concience and engage in acts of Sodomy. Do they show the damage done to the anal tissue? the damage done to the immune system when sperm is enjected into the lower digestive system? Do they drink each others piss? Do they show them setting ups displays at the local public school and handing out flyers to promote the gay life style? Do they dance naked in a "gay pride" parade so we can all see they are normal people?Do they show all the hundreds of partners they will seek out and how many will be infected with STD's?Do people want to face the truth? Repent or perish.
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To Miss_ChantI love many people, but I do not have sex with them. Love and sex are two SEPERATE things. Many married people will tell you that they feel romantic love sometimes for someone that is not their spouse. These "feelings of love" are not really love at all (sorry to shock your youthful mind). Feelings come and go, but love is based on committment, loyality, and sacrafice, and faithfulness. Casual sex is the enemy of true love. Casual sex is selfish and destuctive to society, marriage, families, children, and everyones health.Destructive sexual behavior has helped to spread desease amoung gays and straights in the whole world. I think straights who engage in casual sex are creating problems too.Two thirds of the HIV/AIDS cases in the USA are related to homosexual behavior... and yet... less than 5% of the US population is gay.How do less than 5% spread such a huge proportion of the HIV/AIDS epidemic in the USA? Nature is the judge and we cannot get mad at her. These are the facts here in the USA. Center for desease control Web page on these figures:http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/PUBS/Facts/At-A-Glance.htmBelow is some interesting points from another web site:http://www.marysremnant.org/Friends/DBK/BKHomAids.htmlTo the present time, 75 to 85 percent of AIDS cases reported are related to homosexual activity, promiscuous heterosexual sex and IV drug abuse. AIDS stubbornly refuses to spread into the population in general, even 20 years after its discovery, despite dire warnings to the contrary.These diseases are acquired directly through the sexual behavior homosexual activists are asking Americans to legally endorse and protect. Yet, as professor Jerome Lejeune of Descartes University, Paris, says of AIDS: "Only God can truly pardon the one who violates His laws; man pardons at times; Nature never pardons at all: She is not a person." The brutal consequences of attempting to break the natural law are not bigoted or hateful, nor are those, like Dr. Laura, Cal Thomas or Gary Morella, who try to point out the dangers and simple truths.We are seeing the natural consequences of violating nature's laws now. They are also a warning to prevent the ultimate eternal consequences. How many will ignore that warning and continue to call the messenger a bigot and continue to shake their fist at God? How many will heed that warning of a loving Father, ready to forgive and reconcile His prodigal children?MY FEELINGSAll sex outside of COMMITTED marriages increases the danger of spreading HIV and STD's. Various levels of destructive sex (gay or straight) increases chances of harm due to the laws of nature. This is not hate, it is reality. Sometimes we have to seperate our emotions from the need to make proper judgments based on truth.The gay life span is almost half the that of a normal person. Why? Because they have higher ratios of depression, suicide, addictions, and STD/AIDS.I have spent countless hours working with gays, child molesters, perverts, convicts, and street people. I came of the streets myself. I know I do not hate anyone.The only reason I came off the streets was because of the grace of Jesus Christ, my Lord. Someone loved me enough to tell me about Christ and God opened my heart so I could REPENT before I perished in my sins.Eastexas
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Love the sinner, hate the sin.Message to the self-righteous---repentMessage to those who practice sodomy---repent.Not only will sodomy destroy us, but so will "righteous" pride.Only love will change people to The Truth.
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Of all the different comments I've heard over the years about gays, I believe Dennis Miller may have mirrored my own feelings 'bout it best: "Any two people have enough trouble finding love in this world as it is...Why don't they just leave 'em the f-ck alone"?The nerve of ANY asshole to define what the meaning of "love" is to me or anyone else..Having the same feelings for a guy that I do for a woman ain't never happened to me yet and I can't see anything changing in that respect...but if they did, you can bet yer sweet-ass I'd go for it...So would any of ya....Peace,The Stevo in H-Town"thejammy.blogspot.com"
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OH "eastexas," it's not THAT big... stop flirting!I'm sorry your anal tissue was damaged, but don't worry, it will grow back!!!
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Fisher again, Hey this is fun watching the twosides try to bitch slap each other!! To all you B-Thumpers, I used to date a girl who loved gettingthings crammed up her ass and your damn skippy itwas F U N. Almost married the girl but we found out wedid not like each other very much. Believe it ornot it was politics. While I agree it's not too kosher watching a paradeof men made up like bizarre scream queens doing"things" to shock the straight crowd I can't agreethat is "good" to "burn folks at the stake" justbecause one is inclined to choose a different path.I live in a small Southern town and have seen thecrowd with the signs that spew hate in G_DS name.These folks don't have a clue about unconditionallove.Is being Gay wrong? Decide for yourself, make yourown choices. That's the beauty of free will makeyour own choices just damn well don't force yourchoice on others!! A challenge to you righteous folks, go to a hospiceand comfort a person dying of AIDS. You know, comfortthe sick and dying. Show some love withoutcondemnation. Reach out not with a fist of hate butwith the caress of love for your fellow man. Afterall you might end up at the mercy of others, yourselfdying for whatever reason and the person taking careof you is gay. You going to condemn at this personwhen they are cleaning your body after you loose controlof your functions?? You going to spew hatewhen the person who is honestly showing compassionto you as you suck your last breath of air. To some of our gay folks a peck on the cheek or a gentlesqueeze is OK but please leave the animal stuff at home.The animal lust stuff in public is not kosher for straights either,leave the gnawing at the house!! I love/lust after my spousesparts but I would not choose a public place to engage with theanimal lust stuff!! Animal lust......... HHHMMMM GOOD!!! Agree or not it's my 2 centsMerryChristmas to allFisher
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Tiredofhate,The Catholic priest abuse was done by gay men and 81%on boys.
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I'm a straight 38 year old father of 4 kidsI have read all of the comments posted today. I have some questions.Why do we fear anything sexual?? Janet Jacksons boob falls out and it causes an uproar. The news show us violence and graphic murders no one complains?? Why do people hide behind religion when they hate or fear something or someone. Repent or perish can just kiss my ass!!!! If their is no evolution and God is all creation then He/She also created gays and lesbians. The Bible was written and interpreted by men to control a society. Jesus could have been gay he hung out with twelve guys. They took baths together. So now comes a movie that makes Christians uncomfortable......again they can KISS MY ASS!!This is a part of the world we live in folks and if you truly believe in God then you truly love and respect ALL people, not just the ones that are like you.In other words......GET OVER IT!!!
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Homosexuality was, and still IS a mental disorder.(See DSM-1 Mental Health listings) Homosexual behavior IS proscribed by the Bible as so great a sin, that the Bible punishes it with death.In a way, the twisted behaviors that are known as "the gay lifestyle" cause the life expectancy of sexually-active gay males to be 43 years of age---YES 43 years. In a way, this conduct is essentailly carrying out the Bible's "death penalty" for gay behavior.TO celebrate these sick, dangerous and immoral conducts is sad. I pity gay people today who want to get well. They are dissuaded and blocked in their attempts to receive solid mental health treatment. A majority of homosexuals who receive treatment for their illness, can be cured or can have their mental illness brought under control.Sadly, high profile movies that promote gay behavior in the end do nothing positive. It is no different than a movie that praises the "beauty" of bi-polar or schizophrenic disorders----encouraging these other ill people to NOT take their medicine, and to drop out of therapy.Certainly, the "gay mafia" members will shout me down---as they do to anyone who has pity for gays, who wants them to seek mental health treatment. Sadly, idolizing gay behavior, will only bring down our society. It has done that to many prior societies---including the people of Sodom, Gomorrah, and the ancient Greeks.Sign me "Cassandra"
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To icthus42:Yeah...jus' close yer eyes-n-ears to it...that'll be a LARGE help...Wish ta hell I'da thoughta that...Those homosexual members of yer family that ya love so much prob'ly 'preciate your "understanding" of their plight..You can bet their eyes-n-ears ain't closed..The Stevo in H-Town"thejammy.blogspot.com"
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To "leftistdestroyer" -- trust me, you're making my day. I love that you're so anti-gay, pro-Christian, and you probably voted for Bush, both times he lost the popular vote.Anyway...the fact that you (a) know there are "six gay sex clubs in Chicago and no straight ones" and (b) know the name of the Manhole (which, by the way, hasn't been in business for at least 3-4 years), and (c) know that gay men have sex in "the forest preserves" really enlightens me.Seriously, it's time to tell your wife that you're a big homo, admit to your choir director at church that you frequented both The Manhole (when it actually existed) and "drove through" the forest preserves, and at one time thought Michael Dukakis was cute!Come out! We'll welcome you to our fold!
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Eastexas;It is common knowledge that not only GBLT (Gay, Bisexual, Lesbian, Transgender) spread AIDS and STI's, if you think this then you really need to set you priorities straight. Statistics have shown that people with AIDS and HIV are in these ratios; Heterosexuals - 70%, Homosexuals - 25% and Needle sharers 5%. AIDs and HIV can be transmitted in FOUR ways. Sex of ANY kind, blood to blood, mother to baby and by needles. Therefore it is NOT only GBLT people who transmit it, as births and needle sharers will always exist.Isn't God meant to forgive you? Isn't belief the key into getting into Heaven?. My Religious Education teacher is a devout Christian, he says that faith is the key into getting into Heaven. He also has the good grace to accept me and my classmates opinions, unlike you. You keep going on about damage during gay sex, well heterosexual sex can be just as damaging as homosexual sex. What about Lesbian sex? that can't do as much damage as homosexual sex, from your point of view at least.I am still a teenager and am sure that I am bisexual. Are bisexual's just as bad as homosexuals then? or only half as bad?. I find it absolutely DISGUSTING that a person like yourself can hate me without evening meeting me. It's so good to know that I will face this kind of predjudice this early in my life, really restore your opinion in the human race doesn't it?. I have romantic feelings for another girl and I can assure you that it isn't just lust. I want to love her and take care of her, just as all people in love do. How can a love that strong be deemed wrong?, love is a precious thing and should be cherished. After all there is so much hate in the world today. In England where I live, Civil Partnerships became legal on the fifth, and I can tell you that I was estatic. It's good to know that at least some people can move with the times and accept people for who they are.I fully intend to watch Brokeback Mountain, and I thing that it is an excellent to promote harmony and understanding. And nothing you can say can change my mind.
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There's 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back (15 after I finish this). Believe me, when I die I will not be spending eternity with many of you. The hypocrisy and hatred (yes, hatred) that all of you "keep your gayness out of my face" people have is overwhelming. Really, do you think God is going to meet you at the Pearly Gates and say, "Your stance on Gays is commendable. I especially love how you say they are filthy and disgusting animals. And when you said that they should all die of AIDS..I couldn't have said it better myself. Seriously Mac, when I said Love Thy Neighbor, I was saying Love Everyone EXCEPT those damn Gays. Glad you read between the lines. Come on in." I suppose that since there are fewer gays than straight people then we really shouldn't go out of our way to make them feel equal. I mean, the Civil Rights Movement was forced upon us. White people were doing just fine before some bleeding heart liberal said our treatment of them was bad. Frankly, I think we should condemn the Jews too. There aren't many of them too. Come to think of, maybe the KKK is onto to something.I'm not a violent gay man (oh, I'm sorry, did I just rub that in your face?), but you people make ME sick.
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There is a lot of unfortunate word slinging against each other. Put two of you angry people in another situation, like you're hanging on the side of a cliff and the other person saves you, imagine how your view of them changes.I'm not saying we should be nicey-nice, we can strongly disagree but should do so with dignity. Be passionate about what you believe, be intelligent about what you believe and have enough humility to know that you might be wrong, have enough grace to give people space in differening opinions, and have enough sacrifice to lend a hand to someone hanging off a cliff (they may exchange the favor some day).
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To Happily Married:WOW... you said it all. God bless you and your family. Because you have been though the horrors of the gay perversion, then you speak with personal understanding of what others gays are going through now.Your new life in Christ is real and I am sure that you can look back now and see how far down the slippery slop of sin our culture has gone. It is a strange journey indeed to wake up to the fact that we are living in Sodom and Gomorah. God help us.!!!Keep up the good work and please keep spreading the good news with the same compassion and wisdom that I see in your last post.God Bless you for being a light in a dark place,Your Brother in Christ,Eastexas
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To Imassuming....Your title has a lot to do why we're posting...at work and bored.But people review about every movie, not just this one and of course the topic leads into tangents like I'm about to do (sorry to those of you who think this should be strictly about the movie). In regards to your experience being gay, I have gay friends like yourself who lead very normal lives. I have a good friendship with them. We get along even though politically we disagree about gay marriage.The question I have for you is complex but stay with me here. If being gay for you is innate is it possible that there is a genetic disorder? I ask it that way because the male and male body are not made for each other (I'm not talking about love or relationships here, just biology). If so, should science look for "a cure" to reverse homosexual tendencies?My question takes a strong individual to understand I'm not trying to be insulting...but if science tries to reverse A.D.D. in kids, which is innate for the kid, to change the kids behavior why not homosexuality? Gay people usually rebutal people who say their lifestyle is a choice by saying "you think I would choose to be gay?". If that's true, and science could reverse it, would they choose that option? Instead of embracing gay as being normal even though everyone knows biologically things don't fit, why aren't we looking for a cure? I don't think gay people are confused about the obvious of how bodies go together and must recognize that their desires don't lead them to the natural connection...therefore something went wrong (whether nature or nurture). I've wondered for a long time if in the gay community there is such a strong wall against approaching the subject of gay not being "normal" and that we should look for a "cure" that we haven't found a cure. It's tongue and cheek to call it a "problem" when you're not trying to offend someone. But, like alcoholism, a person has to admit that there's a problem before they get help.I post this respectively even though I realize it has the potential to offend someone. My questions are honest and not ill-motivated.
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To H-TownChildren who do not take responsibility for their actions never grow up. Why blame everyone except the source of the problem? Are you that determined to stick your head in the sand and deny realty? Nobody is forcing the Gays to spread STD's and AIDS amoung themselves. Nobody is causing them to create the bad statistics that follow thier chosen life style. Nobody is taking 30+ years off of their life span, THEY DO IT TO THEMSELVES. Healing cannot come if you cannot take responsibility and admit there is a problem.As the old saying goes... "if you dont like the message, kill or blame the messenger".Eastexas
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So to those of u against this movie and homosexuality that read your bible and follow ALL the laws of the bible litterally.... Then you should ALL DO as the bible states or YOU TOO will go to hell. Do YOU follow all of these laws?! Do you wear jewelery? The bible says it is wrong and consideres it adorning oneself... Do you eat meat? The bible says it's unclean... Do you go to church on Sunday? The bible says God rested on the Seventh Day which is Saturday NOT Sunday... Man changed the day to Sunday NOT God. These are a few of the laws and there are many more things stated in the bible that I hope you are doing or u too will go to hell with the gays... but then again that all depends on what religion you are and what bible you read and what your interpretation of things in the bible are including homosexuality. Just like EVERYTHING else in the bible the reader must interpret, so before u go pointing fingers look at your own life and remember YOU ARE NOT THE JUDGE ONLY GOD IS.
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At Work Bored,LOL! That's all you got? There wouldn't be law suits and groups that push their ideas into schools (GLSEN) and petitions to law makers if there were no agenda! And the first lesbian couple to form a civil union in Vermont split up this week. More bucks for the lawyers huh?
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To those of you who brag you do not want children, all I can say is at least you have the sense to admit it and stand by it. If not, you would most definetly screw that child up and the last thing we need is another screwed up liberal!LeeUSA.
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Who really gives two hoots about 2 gay cowboys.This only contributes to the moral breakdown of society, "the anything goes and in your face crap" that is put forward by the liberal left and the ACLUGod Help America, PLEASE....
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I went to see "The Incredibles" cause I have kids. I saw "The Notebook" cause I'm a hopeless romantic(as it speaks to my relationship to my wife). I like horror films cause it's kinda like riding a rollercoaster. OK, sometimes I'll watch a movie because I might get to see Halle Berry topless. I like Westerns, because of the shootouts and I kinda like their toughness.Why would I want to see a Gay Cowboy film. I have no interest in seeing gay men makeout. I can see that on Santa Monica Blvd. Why would I want to see a romantic film between men. I am romantic to women.Curious????? I hope the gay community enjoys this film and it speaks to them and maybe comforts some of them. If it is a good enough film and deserves an Academy award I hope it gets one. But I have no intentions of seeing it, or Syriana, or Good night and Good luck. I doubt many single women(gay or straight) will see this and I don't think many straight guys will asked their buddies to go either.I'd say this film might make 20-25 million (some from repeat gay visiters).MA
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Is being gay harmful to yourself or others? I believe that was the point made to help determine if gays have a mental disorder. (and... yes biologically they do not have the plumbing connected properly and they are out of touch with reality. Anyone who cannot look between their own legs and figure out that the plumbing is not meant to be connected to another man has a problem with reality).The facts show that the life span of a gay person is about half that of a person in a male-female relationship. The statistics show that gays have a much higher rate of suicide, depression, drug use, sexual crimes... on and on. These are facts not opinion. Gays are hurting themselves and others but will not admit it.Many minors, who go on to become gay, have been introduced to this experiece by older gays. Gays want to get into the main stream of TV, schools, marriage, etc... They deny that there is ANY problem and DEMAND full access and rights to promote, suduce, and convert as many people as possible to their harmful behavior.This movie is about two men who are CHEATING on their marriage vows. Even if this was about two straight guys - CHEATING ON YOUR SPOUSE DAMAGES CHILDREN, MARRIAGE, SOCIETY, AND OUR NATION. We sing a different tune when it is OUR SPOUSE that cheats on us. It never feels good to be betrayed. Broken families and betrayal is more painful to endure than the going through the death of our spouse. Why do we even call this a movie. It is brainwashing to entice people into the anguish of ERROR (sin).Why do we scoff at those who promote faithfulness to their spouses, and at the same time, promote movies that destroy the very foundation of our families and society. God instructs us to not lie, cheat, kill, and committ adultry because it hurts US not GOD. It is for our long term benefit that God warns of harmful behavior. God will not suffer because of our broken families, we do and our children do.Sometimes being faithful means keeping your pants on even when you feel tempted to sin. Its called being a promise keeper. It feels good in the long run, not just the temporary pleasures of sin for a moment.We sometimes are just to proud to admit we are wrong and take the responsibility for it. In the end you will pay for everything you do. We do it to ourselves and God does not have to do anything. We are our worst enemy.Many older gays will tell you, after a life of fleeting relationships and many partners that they feel betrayed and empty on the inside. When you combine that with the desease and mental anguish the go though, would'nt be wise to warn people that this is a harful life style?Eastexas
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Homosexuals are not natural. Their desire for the same sex does not bear witness with nature. It can only leave them barren and in mental anguish. Thier lives are filled with mental and emotional problems that cause them to feel shame and guilt. The desease they spread from their unclean acts is verified by the damage they do to each other's body. It is a medical fact they live shorter lives and cause bodily harm to themselves. Homosexual were once treated for mental disorders, now they want display their filth on prime time TV. Enough is enough. Sodomites are not normal and desire to form alliances with groups that want our children for sex. It makes me sick. Some of us are not afraid to tell homosexuals that we reject thier sexual habits and they are a stink in God's nose. It is sin and a cancer to any society. Repent or perish.
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This is a movie about diversity and promoting tolerance, nothing more. It's too bad that people believe everyone must behave exactly as they do or they are somehow less valuable. That is a narrow attitude that has no place in a diverse society. Life is NOT all about kids. Many of us heterosexuals do not want children and the numbers are growing. There are many other satisfying avenues in life, children are only one for those so inclined. This movie is attempting to point out that people are not clones of each other nor should they be expected to live their lives as such.
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chi1,Bush won the poular vote in 2004 and the elctoral vote in both 2000 and 2004. In fact, Bush won a MAJORITY of the vote in 2004, something that Clinton couldn't do in either of his victories.
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A gay cowboy movie.... give me a break. I wish the media outlets wpold not even give this disgraceful trash coverage. Real americans are not interested in watching this sort of garbage. I'm sick of hearing about the gay movement. I wish they would remain in the closet and practice their pathetic filthy lives in private. Straight Americans are sick of this non sense. You want to be gay... fine just don't force us to have to endure your filth.
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I am ashamed there are so many ignorant people out there who are terrified of people who are different than themselves. The ignorance I've seen posted in these comments makes me sick.I'm a straight, happily married female. I'm not in the least threatened by homosexuals. Why are you?
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It is just too bad that Gay groups feel compelled to express their opinion on this movie, while affirming their sexual preference. I don't recall any Hetero Sexual groups standing up for "9 1/2 weeks" but I digress.
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Brokeback Mountain. And the motion picture industry wonders why the public is not going to movies. Heath Ledger is noted for saying that this will jumpstart his career. Really? That is a great way to jump start your career. Saddle soap will never look the same again. My dear wife says she will never look at Heath the same again either.
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THIS MOVIE IS NOT ABOUT LOVE.There several meanings for the word love:Sexual love.Friendship love.Self-sacrificing love.Many people get married based on sexual love and even friendship love. As love grows, they learn self-sacrificing love. In the end, it is self-sacrificing love that endures and stays faithful till the end.This movie is about 2 men who betray their spouses and family and seek sexual love. It is not about faithful partners and self-sacrifice. This is a movie about weak and selfish desires that hurt the families they are suppose to be faithful to.But, why am I not suprised? Our society glorify two sodomites who have lost control of their urges and are blinded by their perverted emotions... no matter who it betrays and hurts. Oh my... it's a movie about love. But if you are the Spouse being hurt and betrayed, it sure don't feel like love. If you are the child who watches your parents break-up... it sure don't feel like love. If you are the child who grows up bitter and pass-on that bitterness to your spouse and children, it sure don't feel like love. We have got to stop the curse of sin and repent. Our society gloifies and encourages "no fault divorce", "sexual freedom outside of marriage", "topless bars", "pornography everywhere", "abortion to kill the unwanted baby", "bi-sexual, homosexual and sex with minors who are younger and younger", etc... We glorify everything but love.BUT WHO CARES AND IS WILLING TO SACRIFICE FOR THE CHILDREN THAT ARE BEING HURT BY OUR "ADULT" SELFISHNESS?The Babyboomers are slowly killing the hearts and minds of our children with it selfish, liberated ideas about sexual desires without responsiblity. They call it love.Our nation (USA) has the highest rates of suicide among young people in the whole world. When is the pain going to stop? We have given in to selfish, complaining, bitter, and un-thankful attitudes for too long. No amount of entertainment and fun can fill our empty hearts. Our children wear the finest cloths and live in nice brick homes... but their hearts are hurting for love from parents who are too selfish to give it. Selfish parents cannot love, train, and inspire sacrifical lives. They are too busy trying to deal with their own pain.So, in our great wealth and free time we have let our imaginations run wild with sex. Our stubborn hearts do not want to be corrected. We want to be right in our own eyes, no matter who it hurts in the end. Just give us more sex... but, the pain won't go away.Well I got news for you, our time is coming soon. God would have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorah if our nation does not suffer judgement. In fact it is already here.SCRIPTURE:Eze 16:49-50 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.It is really this perverted selfish kind of love and sex that we glorify as "LOVE"... when indeed it is the cause of all the pain inflicted on the children who suffer the breakdown of our family structure. It is our little children being hurt by selfish fathers and bitter mothers that is planting the trauma in their hearts. These little kids are twisted and broken as the reach puberty and many turn out to be gay, perverted, or addicted to the same sexual bondages as their parents. The pain if never ending... with each generation increasing the speed of our own destruction. All the while we compliment ourself with all of our wealth and education. But the pain in our empty hearts cannot be filled with the wrong kind of love, pain pills, and entertainments. We are looking for something and that something only comes from God. God wants what is good for us and tells us to grow up and think of others more than ourself.SCRIPTURE sometimes calls missing element CHARITY...1Co 13:4-7 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. God help us. We come to the cross of Jesus who showed us real love that was willing to suffer and die for our sins. We come to Jesus and ask you to please give us a new heart and forgive us. We ask it now. We ask it now, in your name, Amen.Eastexas
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You think we care if YOU reject OUR sexual practices? As if years of persecution by sinners full of hate, like yourself, hasn't taught us self reliance. Oh, and as far as "wanting your children for sex"... you are sick for even bringing it up. Pervert. Go get on your knees at some false alter like you do every Sunday. Hey look, we BOTH have bruises on our knees. yes, homos were treated for mental illness, and weasn't that soemtime after leeches were used to bleed people into health. Yeah, you guys totally respect science too.
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Keep the incoherent rambling posts coming 'leftistdestroyer' they are HILARIOUS.Remind me again what the gay agenda is? I lost my newsletter...
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For a third time, Fisher!! Just kind of replying to EastTejas Just havin a little fun!!!1. "Crammed up" was a figure of speech. We had anal sex yes but damage the taterhole I don't think so!! 2. Did I say anything about pedophiles?? I have no mercy for pedophiles, none. My Moms worked in mental health and there were a lot of those creatures she had to deal with, they were from all walks of life and some from the area of religion!!3. Coward such a nice word from a nice person.4. Did the LORD not say "Love your enemy" Just because you don't agree biblically with a lifestyle it does not mean to hate and treat people like s**t.5. Pedophiles again, has any one done a study to see which part of society has the most pedophiles? 6. BIG PRICKS?? You gay dudes have some magic wiener dust that makes em all BIG?? I bet a lot of straights would be willin to buy!! 7. As far as the movie goes, I ain't going. As for Janets titties SET EM FREE AND LET ME SEE. Sorry, something about a pair of "breast" they just.......MMMMMM TITTIES........ GOOD........ Humor folks!!8. I am not P.C. I am barely house broken. I am a Repub. The only Demo politician I like is Zell Miller. I think they should legalize weed for "medicinal" reasons. My favorite drink is Absinthes, A French brand please. 9. Sorry for getting off subject. Again MerryChristmas Fisher
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Hey leftistdestroyerYou seem to have spent quite a bit of time looking for gay clubs, judging gay relationship and pondering gay sex. Well adjusted straight people that I know do not spend their time this way. Besides that - this is a space to comment on the release of a MOVIE, not reveal your personal hang-ups.
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screen name: eastexas comments: Responding to Fisher (MY COMMENTS IN CAPS) I love when you talk 'dirty in CAPS' ,eastexas....eva
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Responce to the sreename "LeftList---" Sorry to give you a wakeup call information, but there are plenty of groups in history that because of descrimination have so called, Stay in the closet with their own lifestyles and organisations. These most of all have been Bible Thumpers". All we ask is tolerance and understanding, This most of all is printed with the stetement " Love Thy Niebor" In case you think that doesn't apply then view your own life for events that maybe you have as strong an opinion as with this situation. Afterall this is a movie and it just represents our view and not to convert just to educate the mainsteam Ideology which is the majority. Life, love and compassion is of great importance in this and all our intention, after all these show's due grab viewership as much if not more than shows that view Killing, Painfull and other issues that concern America." ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL " oh by the way I do agree on one point Legal marrige is in my opinion is and should be left to a Man and Woman we just ask for the right to live without persicution and Hate.ThanksBryanGvilleboy1@earthink.net
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To DJAkeeba:16 to 20 million? I'm takin' the "over"...itsa lock..Pete Rose"thejammy.blogspot.com"
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Why do homosexuals want to dance naked in public parades in order to change societies mind... that they are normal? Why do they want to crame different object into each others anas and tell us that they should be respected as normal people? Why do Sodomites want to drink each others piss and then tell me they are to be treated as rational human beings? Why do gays for alliances with groups that have sex with minors and then tell me their mind is functioning OK?I could go on and on... Sodomites are sick. I pity their mental torture that drives them to such debase behavior. Repent or perish.
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To the gentleman who thinks he was homosexual and is now married: I am truly sorry you had to go through that experience and lose your innocence, it was WRONG what that person did to you. Having said that, it makes me cringe that you would draw comparisons between your life and the lives of other gay men. I was never molested by anyone, I was never abused by anyone, I was a very devout young Lutheran and I just happen to be gay. I am in a loving, long term relationship with one person. I can count my number of sexual partners on one hand. I am an example of the polar opposite of everything you believe about gay people, and unfortunately my story is constantly ignored. There are a lot of young people out there, possibly reading this string of comments, and trying to be ok with themselves, trying to be HONEST with themselves and be who they truly are. The beauty of this country is that we are blessed with freedom. We have the freedom to make this movie and the freedom to watch this movie, if we want to. Those that don't, I'm not really sure why you are even posting things on here, your opinions are ignorant, null and void as far as I'm concerned. This movie isn't about the origion of gay people or about the bible, it is about two people who love each other and can't express themselves because of the backlash of hate around them. Hmmmmm.... sound familiar?
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Oh eastexas. shame, shame. Let's see . . . I don't cram things up my anus, don't have sex with children, don't rub my lifestyle in your face . . .maybe I'm not gay? Or maybe I am no more gay than you!Admit, and stop hating yourself. It looks ugly on you.
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your'e sick because of how you have sex.
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I think the key word here is "some"--i.e., "Some" people "may" be able to change their sexual orientation. And who the hell knows why. I suspect Dr. Spitzer would very much object to the implication you're attempting to draw from his research.
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Where do I begin? First of all, I am not offended by your question, I feel you have a lot of respect. It's an honest question and unfortunately no one can answer it. We don't know enough about it. Psychologists and biologists have been studying homosexuality in many species for decades, to no success. The few studies that do have any kind of conclusion are weak in the very fact that they are unreproducable. So without knowing much about the mechanisms of homosexuality, a cure seems far off. Psychotherapy works in a small number of cases (0-33% of those who attempt), but generally these results are behavioral and merely keep a person from performing sexual acts, not eliminating attraction or fantasies. These individuals who are truly homosexual and consider themselves cured will still most likely fight these attractions for the rest of their lives. But I digress, SHOULD we cure gay people? Is being gay similar to being bipolar or schizophrenic or having ADD or ADHD (as some on this thread believe)? The answer is no. Mental disorder and mental illness, as defined by psychologists, involves an inherent lack of functionality in day to day existence. Are you happy? Are you well-adjusted and functioning well? Are you a danger to yourself or those around you? These are questions we ask when deciding whether someone is mentally ill. That is why homosexuality was removed from the DSM several decades ago. NOT because of anything else.I believe that the true origins most likely involve biological and environmental factors, like most behavioral phenomena. The only thing that most in the psychological field agree on is this: you can't make some gay or straight, it is what it is. As someone with a BA in psych, I am NO EXPERT. This is all I can recall from my own experience with the research. But it is also important to acknowledge that your perspective on two men "not being natural" and "not fitting together right" is an opinion, not a fact. If you were gay you would sure as hell find it natural, TRUST me. I appreciate your level of tolerance and my only goal in even writing this is to try and clarify the difference between what is fact and what is a prevelant attitude.Listening to each other with an open mind is the only way to learn. THANKS
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The Gay LIFESTYLE is really a Gay DEATH STYLE
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So you say homosexuality is not normal? Is dropping bombs on other countries? torture? How about clergy molesting children? or artificial insemination? or adoption?The American Christian Church has compromised so much of Christ's values to justify it's behavior, there is hardly an opportunity for a legitimate voice.Taking the moral high ground against people wanting stable loving relationships is a whisper in the storm. No one wants to listen.
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GOOD NEWS - GAYS CAN GO STAIGHThttp://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/thomas051001.aspDR. ROBERT L. SPITZER is a professor of psychiatry at Columbia University. In 1973, he persuaded the American Psychiatric Association to remove homosexuality from its official diagnostic manual of mental disorders. At the time, Dr. Spitzer was hailed by many as a scientific Moses, leading homosexuals out of their closeted captivity.Last Wednesday, Dr. Spitzer spoke again to the APA at its meeting in New Orleans. This time he had a different message: "Contrary to conventional wisdom, some highly motivated individuals, using a variety of change efforts, can make substantial change in multiple indicators of sexual orientation.'' In other words, according to Dr. Spitzer, once homosexual does not necessarily mean always homosexual.Dr. Spitzer interviewed 200 men and women who said they had experienced a significant transition from homosexual to heterosexual attraction, and had sustained this shift for five years. "Like most psychiatrists,'' Spitzer says, "I thought homosexual behavior could only be resisted, and that no one could really change their sexual orientation. I now believe that to be false. Some people can and do change.''When Dr. Spitzer offered his views to the APA 28 years ago, he was presented as an unassailable expert. Now, after studying the matter further, he says his views have changed. Is he still an expert? Of course not, because he now confronts the only force greater than science, theology or public opinion: political correctness.Dr. Spitzer must now be silenced or discredited by those for whom "gay rights'' is a holy grail. Other "experts'' who toe the party line are being produced to undermine his conclusions. Because many of those...Read the rest of the article at:http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/thomas051001.aspEastexas
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Responding to Fisher (MY COMMENTS IN CAPS)I used to date a girl who loved gettingthings crammed up her ass and your damn skippy itwas F U N. DAMAGED ANAL TISSUE, BLEEDING, INFECTION... FUN?I'M SURE YOU COULD SELL A BOOK ABOUT YOUR KIND OF FUN.While I agree it's not too kosher watching a paradeof men made up like bizarre scream queens doing"things" to shock the straight crowd I can't agreethat is "good" to "burn folks at the stake" justbecause one is inclined to choose a different path.SODOMITES PROMOTING THERE PERVERSION TO THE PUBLIC AND ENTICING MINORS TO JOIN THE "GAY" LIFE STYLE IS A THREAT THAT CANNOT BE DEALT WITH BY BEING "NICE".IT IS THIS KIND OF MORAL COWARDS THAT ALLOWS THE PUBLIC CONCIENCE TO GROW SLEEPY. OUR LIMITS OF DECENCY GROW WEAKER AND WEAKER WITH EVERY PASSING GENERATION. NOTHING ALARMS US ANYMORE. OUR SOCIAL VALES HAVE BEEN OVER DOESED WITH FILTH AND SHOCK TILL THERE REMAINS NO CONVICTION ABOUT ANY THING.These folks don't have a clue about unconditionallove.WHEN AN ISSUE COMES UP THAT YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH, THEN I AM SURE YOU WILL LAY DOWN YOUR PRICIPLES AND LET PEOPLE RUN OVER YOU WHILE YOU KEEP TELLING THEM THAT YOU FEEL UNCONDITIONAL LOVE FOR THEM. YOU MIGHT EVEN RECOMMEND BED WETTING TO SHOW YOU FEEL THEIR PAIN.Is being Gay wrong? Decide for yourself,YES... GAYS (SODOMITES) ARE WRONG.THE LAWS OF NATURE SAYS IT IS WRONG.THE LAWS OF MEDICAL SCIENCE SAYS IT IS WRONG.THE HISTORY OF MANKIND SHOWS US IT DESTROYS.THE MENTAL PROBLEMS IT PRODUCES PROVES IT DESTROYS.THE CHILDREN WHO ARE DAMAGED PROVE IT IS WRONG.SODOMITES DON'T CARE WHO GETS HURT, THEY JUST MOVEON TO THE NEXT PARTNER, VICTIM, CONVERT, ETC...GODS WORD SAYS IT IS AN ABOMINATION.GOD IS LOVE AND HE IS TELLING US SOMETHING TO PROTECT US BEFORE OUR SOCIETY BRINGS ITS OWN SELF DESTRUCTION.A challenge to you righteous folks, go to a hospiceand comfort a person dying of AIDS. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE CONTRACT ALL KINDS OF SEXUAL DESEASES EVERYDAY!!!! THEY ALL DESERVE A CHANCE TO BE LOVED. IT IS NOT GOING TO HELP THEM TO KEEP TELLING THEM TO MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AGAIN AND AGAIN. THEY ARE HURTING OTHERS WHILE THE SELFISHLY SEEK TO PLEASE THEMSELVES. THEY MUST FACE THE TRUTH AND STOP. I SAY IT LIKE THIS... "STOP MY FRIEND, BEFORE IT KILLS MORE AMD MORE POEPLE... AND YOURSELF". SOMETIMES LOVE MUST BE TUFF.The animal lust stuff in public is not kosher for straights either,leave the gnawing at the house!! I love/lust after my spousesparts but I would not choose a public place to engage with theanimal lust stuff!! THANK YOU FOR SUCH BALANCED WISDOM. AS LONG AS YOU DONT DANCE AROUND NAKED AND SHOCK US, ITS OK TO PROMOTE SODOMY, SELL SODOMY, CONVERT CHILDREN TO SODOMY, WATCH MOVIES ABOUT SODOMY, MAKE TASTFUL TALK SHOWS ABOUT SODOMY... BUT DO NOT DEMONSTRATE SODOMY IN PUBLIC BECAUSE IT MAKES THE AVERAGE PERSON SICK TO THIER STOMACH. JUST KEEP SELLING IT ON A LOW KEY LEVEL UNTIL WE CAN MAKE THE OTHER SIDE SHUT-UP WITH HATE SPEECH LAWS... AND THEN WE WILL DANCE IN THE STREETS WITH OUR BIG PRICKS HANGING OUT.OH YES, THE SODOMITES WILL DO THIS IN LOVE. BE NICE TO A SODOMITE TODAY, THEY MAY HAVE YOUR CHILD TOMORROW. HAVE A NICE DAY.REPENT OR PERISH
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i am so emabarrassed to be reading these post by socalled Christians. I myself am a devout Christian and i can not believe how these Christians are bashing and judging. if you really loved and worshiped God and tryed to be like him, you would be taking the matter to prayer and asking the Lord to heal our land. Satan is the ruler of the earth. This is all signs of the last days. You should be rejoicing that the Lord is coming back soon. Rejoice for your redemption draws nigh. to those who are Christian look up the verse judge not lest ye be judged remember that God will judge you in the same manner that you judge others. i am not accepting or condoning the homosexual lifestyle because it is a sin but let God do the judging and let your lifestyle reflect who Christ really is. He says come unto me all ye who are weary and heavy laden and i will give you rest. God wants all people to come to him and let him change and transform them, however many people are decieved like they said would happen in the last days. I am taking this matter to prayer, that God will give me a heart of compassion, so that we people need Prayer or a tender word of scripture, Gay or straight, hindu or buddist, islam or morman, i can hope that my life truly reflects how Jesus lived on the earth and do my best to help them however the Lord wants me too.. Shame to you who go to church and speak the way you do. we are called to hate the sin, and love the persons soul. that is what it is all about, their soul. God wishes that no man should persish but that all should come to repentence. Let God be the judge, he is the eyes and ears of the world .. nothing goes unnoticed good or bad.
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Response to imassumingyouareallatworkbord:I just can't stop laughing. "will grow back" LOL LOL LOL LOL. It's so funny lol.
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ehehehehehheh, he said earhole
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All one has to do is drive through a whole neighborhood in the city to know there are gay clubs. The Man Hole is one place. They have little rainbow flags all over their street lights. And it all flaunts gay sex. Not gay relationships, but gay sex. There are not no straigt sex clubs called that are advertised so blatently that I have ever seen.And I love how you guys turn things around. You can name al of the diviant sex that straights have, but that is not the basis for being straight. There are plenty of wacky straight sex diviants, but they do not flaunt it in public or demand special rights. The fact that more gays get AIDS than straights has something to say about this as well. They are so based around sex that they don't even use protection adequately. Theire sexual partner lists are shocking. I have heard some gay groups suggest as many as 300 partners!! So much for your committed relationships huh?In the states that do allow marriage, we have already seen divorce and custody battles. I thought you guys were supposed to be "better" than straight people were in relationships? You were supposed to be able to raise kids "better" than straight people! Give me a break!I don't care what you do in your bedrooms on the weekends, but don't even try to tell me that you guy's are the same, that the only difference is that you have intercourse with the same sex. There are many diffences between the majority of straight people and gay's.And don't give me polls and sceintific data. People only use that to shore up support for their cause. There are study's that show more women are likely to die within one year of having an abortion, but the pro abortion crowd does not accept it. And they are from the same politcal spectrum as you are
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reply to leftistdestroyerYou wouldnt last 5 minutes in Newcastle, Tyne & Wear, England. England has learnt tolerance, in general anyway. In fact in many areas i know of gays are the preferred friends of everyone. There is something wrong if you can find plenty of gay clubs and no straight ones. Here in Newcastle there are a dozen gay clubs and bars and the same straight, just the gay ones are concentrated on one street while the straight ones are spread out a bit more.As for the aids situation, I am worried that your terrible piece on it will lead others to the erroneous conclusion that gay people with HIV are wantonly passing on the virus. The vast majority of gays knowingly living with HIV use every measure possible to avoid passing the virus on. HIV prevention experts agree that those most likely to pass on the virus are people recently infected who don't know they have it. I have access to the UK HIV records, and there is no evidence that the number of new cases among gay men in the UK has gone up. Diagnoses have but that's good news, it means more are realising the seriousness of the disease and so can prevent the spread of it and can recieve medication. And most people 'barebacking' goes on between people with the same HIV status, and is arguably a public health benefit, not a risk. Reality of life with HIV presents challenges enough without ignorant souls raising false spectres that can only deflect attention from the real issue and damage the efforts of those striving to put an end to the epidemic.And as for it being because of our other sexual habits, get real. More and more straights are becoming 'slappers' now, while the same thing in percentage decreases in gays. It's becoming more acceptable for gays to be gay nd so a higher percentage (which keeps rising) are settling down into a meaningful relationship. The two groups are merging closer together. And may I point out about the 'don't try the you must be gay too routine' thing you said, no not necessarily but you are clearly uncertain of your sexuality. It is a proven fact that homophobes are merely afraid that they may hav feelings for someone of the same sex, a scientific study was performed and the results conclusive so why not just relax, it'll mean less conflict. Search deep down and find out the truth. You may or may not be gay. I don't know, but I pity you because neither do you.
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Statistics show that gays have more suicides, depression, drug use and commit more sexual crimes than hetero-sexuals?I don't buy that for 1 minute EastTexas but, lets say it's true...ya reckon persecution of their choices of who or who not to love has anything to do with it?
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Accusations of Hate & Intolerance are common enough to be woven into the plots of today's most popular crime dramas on network TV. If Bible believers were more true to "Love the sinner, Hate the sin" then "hate and intolerance" might not be as prominent an issue today. It's true that the biggest enemy to the religion of Christianity are self-proclaiming Christians themselves. However, there is a puzzling, unreported irony about how the "persecuted" minority homosexual groups are intolerant that anyone could literally believe that a loving God would warn his creation to not participate in homosexual behavior at risk of being sentenced to an eternity in Hell. But that is exactly what the Bible says, so those who are in disagreement are more in opposition to the God of the Bible than those who make judgements about homosexual behavior. If the Bible is in fact God's manual for living then we as a society should be tolerant of those who choose to live their life in accordance to what is written, which means we as a society should tolerate those who are rightfully intolerant of fruitless behavior which leads to sorrow and death. The making of a movie like 'Brokeback Mountain' which is sympathetic to the human emotions of homosexual men might have an element of historical truth, but I'd hesitate to label it as historically significant.
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I can't wait to see "Brokeback Mountain." And I am an American. It sounds like you two "straight" men who took the time to write your comments just really don't like "gays." Yes, those pesky "gay" people want "special rights" and they "blame us for all their problems"... as the writer claims. Wow, you both got real worked up about a movie coming out. Maybe the both of you should meet up and watch it together, then you two can come out too. Get it? ha ha! Because, my theory is, that since I was vehemently anti-gay before I admitted to myself who I was, and many many other supposedly "straight" men who are very, very anti-gay end up coming to the conclusion that they are gay, maybe you guys and some other men out there are just waiting for the day they can look themselves in the mirror without all that inner-hatred. Do you believe in science? Then research the studies on homosexuality and homo behavior... talk to some homo's. A lot of gay people are just like you, and you can't tell that they are gay. That cop that just gave you a ticket? He's gay. The sexy woman who rang up your groceries? She's gay. You can't always tell if someone is gay. Some people stand out, feminine guys or butch women... but a lot don't. There really isn't a "We" when it comes to us gays, either. There is no club, we don't meet up to discuss our plans for domination, no one gets a toaster oven when they "join up." There have been gay people for thousands of years, and a "smart American" would conclude that maybe gay people will continue to exist. Or, you could just hate us, and blame us for your own problems, like why is the HETEROSEXUAL divorce rate %50??? Why are all the HETEROSEXUAL people making babies then aborting them? the gays made us do it!!! "I hear that those straight people have special sex clubs where they go to have sex for hours, even days!!!" - does that sound weird? It's true! But no one says it about you straight people, only us gays... Oh sure, the gays have/get AIDS, but they never really did ask for much help or get any from the heterosexuals, did they? Funny how angry and hateful judeo-christians are without realizing it. Maybe that's why god creates us homosexuals. To test you "normal" people.
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As a straight male who does not speak for god I feel that this movie is important for everyone to see as it explores something that is a fact. There are gay people and they are not gay by choice they are gay because the are just gay. If my wife and I keel over at the same time our 5 year old daughter will go and live with a gay couple who we love and trust. Why- because they are best suited for the job. If you study who molests children I believe you would find that christian youth ministers molest many more children than gay men(lets not forget our devoted catholick brothers. Tone down the hatred and read the bible. And remember -those who yell the loudest have the most to hide-How come Jesus never married and hung out with single guys who worshiped him?
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As a former homosexual (molested by a homosexual man as a child – as is a large percentage of the homosexual population), I’ve decided not to live the rest of my life out of those four years of sexual abuse. I have been redeemed by Jesus Christ, who brought me through much deep healing – thanks to two of the many Christian ministries helping homosexuals. I am now madly in love with my wife of six years - with two children and counting.I deplore this film for a number of reasons. One: It encourages young people to explore this very dangerous and debauched lifestyle by unrealistically glamorizing it; thereby making it look healthy and normal. Two: It is showing graphic scenes of unnatural acts which God calls "abominations". Three: It distorts reality for the viewer by purporting a fantasy story that is actually overshadowed by millenia of cultural and religious condemnation of homosexuality and sodomy from the vast majority of world peoples and civilizations.Homosexuality has never been and will never be healthy, safe or approved of by God, Who created us all in His image and for His good pleasure. I thank Him publicly today for saving my soul, making me whole and giving to me a second, third, fourth and ad nauseum chance in life to break forth into His higher plan for my life: holiness, virtue and true love. I'm so happy to be free!
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JESUS SAIDJoh 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil. APOSTLE PAUL SAIDRom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. 1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. The above scriptures can be spoken without being in a wrong "judgmental spirit", just as they were written without being in a wrong spirit.Those who are afraid to speak the truth and take the position of silent bed wetting do nothing to help Gods Kingdom or themselves.If Christians were not suppose to quote the scriptures to society, then the gospel would have never made it out of Jerusalem on the day of Pentacost.If you remember, the early disciples made the world around them enraged with anger because they testified about things that upset people. They did not hide in a closet in the name of prayer while the world around them was lost in sin. They prayed for boldness to speak the truth about sin, repentance, and the saving grace of Jesus Christ's blood atonement on the cross.Worldly Christains are lukewarm and measure their stature by how much they fit into the world. This is the deceptions Jesus warned us about. It is the silent saints waiting for the rapture that is killing our society that needs to HEAR the TRUTH.Eastexas
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This is sick. God help this country. This is so gross and absurd. Please don't watch this movie so that more aren't made. Our great country needs it's morals back and movies like these just harm everyone. If you want to be gay that's your business just keep it to yourselfs.
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Chi1ForFun,LOL Good one! Looks like you walked into MY trap! I am still trying to figure out where you got the notion that I was a Christian, I never mentioned religion at all. Not once.The clubs are in a neighborhood. Do I not have the right to pass through your disease ridden town on my way to a baseball game? It is hard to...sorry, I didn't mean to say hard. It is hard to miss them.I had no clue that the manhole had been closed, I do not go to places like that. The disgusting name is hard, oops there I go again, it is kind of hard to not remember that one.Again, it is kind of hard to not know that men f**k in the forest preserves. Especially when the cops ask me what I am doing there and want to know am I out to f**k someone. Enlightened? What do you mean? Like: a little "enlightened" in the heels?I'll say I am gay, when you say you are straight!
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ET...I wuzn't "blaming" anyone...I merely asked a question which, btw, certainly represents anything but a person burying their head in the sand, as you say...Gays don't have a monopoly on doing tragic things "to themselves" anymore than any other sector of the world..I DO know this...I ain't them and they ain't me.. and bein' critical or judgemental of 'em unless ya walked a mile in their shoes is pretty presumptuous..PS: If I didn't wanna hear your "take"...I wouldn't be here...
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GLSEN? Wow you are twisted. GLSEN is about protecting kids, lawsuits are about protecting people's rights, and I hate to break it to you, but everybody lobbies to law makers, not just gays.I don't waste my time on people like you leftistdestroyer. What is the point in me wasting my breath, you won't listen, you won't change your mind! AIDS: AIDS kills people. It has killed a lot of really good people and will kill more. All over the world. Using AIDS to market your 'agenda' about gays being immoral and evil is... um... IMMORAL AND EVIL! These are people! GROW UP! AIDS doesn't discriminate, it is a virus. More straight people in africa are dying of AIDS than gay people here. And don't worry lefty, it won't effect me either, I don't have it and being in a loving relationship, I won't get it. Sex and babies: Like a lot of these people you are obsessed with calling love-making between gay people hedonistic and pointless cuz we can't make babies. Let me then ask you this: why does birth control exist? Because people don't always have sex to make babies! SOME people enjoy and appreciate sex as the gift it is. You think gay sex is disgusting because you were taught that it is disgusting. If i didn't have to watch straight people have sex on tv or the movies or watch nasty couples making out in every thinkable place in America I would think straight sex is disgusting, i have just been desensitized!On Marriage and children: I don't know if gays should get married, but i do know this: anywhere from 6 million to 14 million children already have a gay parent for some reason or another. There are already children involved in this. Shortchanging gay people shortchanges them. And guess what, most of them are probably straight!Kids DO make up their own minds for when they have sex, regardless of what happens around them. I'm sorry you let other people decide for you.And finally, this movie IS about love. I've actually seen this movie, have you? Your obsession with some hypermasculinist idea of a cowboy just shows your level of sexism and bigotry: you can't stand the idea of a gay cowboy because you associate being gay with not being a man. But I hate to tell you that there are a HUGE amount of gay men out there ten times more manly than you, and for more reason than just their courage in being themselves. The point is that you wouldn't know who was gay or straight back then, and in many cases you still can't today. Attacking the personal life of the original author really means nothing.People get divorced sometimes.And last but not least: the liberal thing. The people who are so gung ho to make babies and keep things "legit" are eventually going to overpopulate the nation to the point where every city in this country will be like the coasts, and then you will all understand why the coasts are liberal: we actually have diversity.
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To Imassuming...Thank you for your thought out response and not taking offense.I realize your drive towards men is natural for you and fulfilling, I don't question that. I disagree with you that it is only my perspective that two men don't fit together or it's not natural. Again, I'm not talking about love or relationships, just biology. I don't mean to be so cut-and-dry, but Biology purely on the basis of anatomical design and and the primary biological purpose for sex which is procreation would state that same gender couples aren't natural (even though those desires are natural for them). I just don't see it as a subjective conclusion; how I extrapolate that biological fact leads into subjective opinion.That being said, I appreciate your time and dialoguing with me. I do hope it can lead to healthier understandings and communication on this divisive topic with others who read this post.
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For the Antigay people:No. I am not the sickness of this world. I am the evolution and it doesn’t matter if you like or not! We came to stay, and prove to you that any kind of love is valid. Just because it’s love. Just look around, and you will see that your poor words cannot transform us in straight people. Please! I’ve learned not to have that square view of love. Love is wonderful and sex is the complement. You can have both, together or separated, but when you don’t know the difference between those two great things, you are the results. Ignorance! People that talk without knowing what they are talking about. Remember! You should love each other or at least respect others people’s lives. It’s very likely that you have or will have a child. God, has several ways make you understand, even if it’s through your own child. Be careful with your judgment, you can pay a very high price that you were not expecting.God bless you.
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Fisher, you have missed the point, and that point being "Gay group comes out in support of Brokerback Mountain" what does their sexual preference have to do with supporting this movie? When was the last time you saw a group saying we the Heteros of the world are supporting a movie, or anything for that matter. I chose 91/2 just as an illustration, you could substitute Dr Zhivago, or Love Story, for 91/2 weeks the point is still the same; no hetero group has ever come out to support a movie. Why then does a Gay Group feel the need to support a movie, while advocating their sexual preference?
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It used to be if you visited my part of town, f@ggot, you'd leave with broken legs.Oh wait. It still is. There are still some places left in 'Merica where people know being a homo is wrong, a man being espoused to one wife is right, and history has judged harshly those who confused the proper relationships between a man and a woman.Don't come to my neighborhood, "gay" person or sympathizer...we look out for each other, and you're not welcome until you figure out the birds and the bees.
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