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thommo

Who are this 90% who find it disgusting? I love/sleep with/have relationships with other blokes (I don't really like the term gay as it suggests a cultural identity choice but have never thought it an issue to keep quiet about), have lived my whole life in London, travelled the world, have a large family, a huge group of friends - mostly straight probably - and am good friends with the people I work with. I can count the number of people who have genuinly shown disgusted hatred towards me on one hand. Maybe this 90% all live in Noneck Virginia and not in the modern world. Educate yourselves people.

9 years 5 days ago
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Where has your country's morals gone? Sorry to bring this up, as it's a cliche, but could we start with illegal wars, gun crime, rigged voting, failure to comply with environmental agreements? Also, to all the people who are banging on about this film representing America's moral low - have you actually seen it? Whatever happened to not judging another until you've walked a day in their shoes? And why do I feel like this is falling on deaf ears? Love to you all X

9 years 5 days ago
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This movie leveled me awe-struck. I was amazed at the compelling emotions between two consenting adults simply falling in love. Where my headache comes in, is where among these posts I see the bigotry and ignorance from those who are manipulated by their brainwashed christian belief system. If someone for once could look past the shell of two people and actually acknowledge the passion and the deliverance of the film. It has a unique aesthetic value of its own. The beauty of the cinematography only enhances the film's setting. I agreed with the review of this movie regarding how Lee chooses not to approach the gay rights issue; however, I believe that in such an approach you can also witness how bigotry against gay people and how they choose to live, will not only hurt them, but those around them as they try to live a lie that society enforces them to live.

9 years 2 weeks ago
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A stepping stone for the gay community.It is so rewarding to see what's been accomplished in just a few decades.I know, I was there tru all of it; in liberal Holland, no less.So now we have a Golden Globe and maybe an Oscar.And in a few years the gay issue won't be important at all anymore.So for the gay-haters out there:we are NOT going to go away, so deal with it.

9 years 2 days ago
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Can I just add that it's this kind of religious hatred that causes the mass slaughter of thousands of people in the world trade centre.The Al-Qieda believe that Westerners are immoral and will perish with exactly the same confidence and hatred as you believe homosexuals will.But I'm wasting my breath.

9 years 4 weeks ago
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first of all i would just like to say that i never thought i would see a big budget gay love story in my lifetime wow how we have evolved!it looks like hollywood is ready to take on gay love stories because i was expecting far less than what was delivered,power emotion love and great actors that put on a show that the world will see and respect for years to come this film is a landmark for things to come and word has it that brad pitt has already shown interest in a few gay scripts that would usually be cast asidebut with 8 oscar nominations you would have to be stupid not to realize the huge gap in the market for these kind of filmsso if you hate gay people then do not watch this film (your brain is too small and you will never understand)but if you are a true lover of love and are the kind of person that lives and let lives then you will be blown away buy a great great film.

8 years 12 months ago
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seeker

Go in peace !!! If the subject of this movie brings you anger then you neither have a clear understanding of it or the bible.

8 years 10 months ago
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Why is it that those extreme religious people (Christians as well as Islamic) feel "they" (heterosexuals) are the creation of God or Allah, but the homo- or bisexuals not.For the record, I (gay) was born out of two heterosexuals, just like my brothers and sister.We are all raised protestant, and although for some of certain Christians and Islamics out there it might be hard to accept: we consider ourselves from the same creator.We all are here on this planet to forfil our destiny. Some people become special in their lives. Very special because of what they can do or what they might mean or become to others. The destiny of gay people is that they do not have the urge to multiply. Instead they can put their energy in other things: developping their creativity, entertaining female friends without harrassing them, being dear uncles and aunties to nieces and nephews, being caring sons and daughters to their eldering parents ....I am happy to be one of those chosen ones, the fortunate ones, and I am happy to be regarded as such by my extensive family and my many many friends (all over the globe) and my co-workers. I am happy with my fulfilling life and myself.It is sad to read all the hatred and prejudiced by some people, and to realize that there are many gay people out there who are probably not as happy as I am.As for Brokeback Mountain:This is a love story. A tragic love story of two men. So many negative words, whenever it appears the male charachters apparently love or care for one another.On the other too many movies are released about heroism in wars, machoism, crooks who are so smart to rob banks or other people, men seducing women of others or as much women as possible, infidelity .... and then no one seems to point towards the bible or koran.

9 years 1 day ago
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Brokeback Mountain...hmmm, why would 2 men doing unnatural acts attract so much venom? Maybe it's because it is an unnatural act. Why is it that when someone states their displeasure and back up their opinion with the Bible, there is so much venom shot at them? Hmmmm...is it because deep within one's self there is a spot and a split second glimmer that actually says that they could be right? I believe that this is just one more example of Hollywood manipulating society to accept an even further degredation of our morals and limits. Look back in history to societies that have fallen to this point of view...Sodom and Gomorrah was an actual city that disappeared...Babylon, the Mayan culture, the fall of Rome, Pompeii, etc...look, see, these types of acts were an intrical part of their society...just leave the bible warnings out....it is the sign of a society that has crossed all lines and has let in ALL influences, and begins to disintegrate from the interior out. I believe the USA is in the grips of this...it is rotting from the inside out...no social limits. Don't spit venom at people with a different point of view, they are entitled to disagree or agree. What worries me is the fall of a great country that began on such good principles. The way down is a slippery slope.

9 years 4 weeks ago
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It's a beautiful movie in technical terms; in thematic ways it's about so much more than gay sex. It spoke to me about America and the dream in the same way as Gatsby, for example, and showed the relentless pressure to conform which seems to bedevil American society, not just about sex but about so many areas where one has to be a regular guy ( or gal. It's one of the few things I loathe about the US.As far as the love story is concerned, love comes upon us unexpectedly at times and in places where we least expect it. Wherever and however it's found, it's the greatest gift; I'm not GLBT but I don;t frrl ny desire to insult or demonise those who are.

8 years 10 months ago
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This is one of the most moving films I have ever seen. I have seen it 7 times and still find it a powerful drama. It is so focused on Ennis and Jack that by the end I could hardly bear it. I felt the grief for weeks. Surely anyone who has loved another human being can understand the conflicts of this love. Ennis himself doesn't really understand what has happened to him. How can we explain what love is? The fact it exists is reason to celebrate.

8 years 10 months ago
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Ewig ist die Liebe. David war der jüngste Sohn von Isai, einem Schafhirten aus Bethlehem. Er verbrachte seine Jugend als Hüter der Herden seines Vaters. Jonathan, im Alten Testament in den Büchern Samuel (1. Samuel 13 bis 2. Samuel 21) der älteste Sohn von Saul, dem König von Israel.Jonathans Freundschaft mit David ging so weit, dass er ihm zuliebe auf die Königswürde verzichtete.1.Samuel 19:2 Was Jonathan, Sauls Sohn, betrifft, er fand großes Gefallen an David. Somit gab Jonathan David Bescheid, indem [er] sprach: "Saul, mein Vater, trachtet danach, dich zu Tode bringen zu lassen. ..........1.Samuel 20:10 Dann sagte David zu Jonathan:"Wer wird mir mitteilen, ob dein Vater dir Hartes antwortet?"1.Samuel 20:11 Jonathan sprach hierauf zu David: "Komm doch, und laß uns aufs Feld hinausgehen." Da gingen sie beide aufs Feld hinaus.1.Samuel 20:17 So schwor Jonathan dem David nochmals wegen seiner Liebe zu ihm; denn er liebte ihn, wie er seine eigene Seele liebte.1.Samuel 20:30 Da entbrannte Sauls Zorn gegen Jonathan, und er sagte zu ihm: "Du Sohn einer widerspenstigen Magd, weiß ich nicht wohl, daß du zu deiner eigenen Schande und zur Schande der Schamteile deiner Mutter die Wahl für den Sohn Isais triffst?1.Samuel 20:31 Denn alle Tage, die der Sohn Isais auf dem Erdboden bebt, wirst du und dein Königtum nicht feststehen. So sende nun hin, und hol ihn zu mir, denn er ist zum Tode bestimmt."1.Samuel 20:32 Jonathan indes antwortete Saul, seinem Vater, und sprach zu ihm: "Warum sollte er zu Tode gebracht werden? Was hat er getan? 1.Samuel 20:33 Da schleuderte Saul den Speer auf ihn, um ihn zu treffen; und Jonathan erkannte, daß es von seinem Vater beschlossen war, David zu Tode tu bringen.1.Samuel 20:34 Sogleich stand Jonathan in der Glut des Zorns vom Tisch auf, und er aß kein Brot am zweiten Tag nach dem Neumond, denn er grämte sich über David, weil sein eigener Vater ihn gedemütigt hatte.1.Samuel 20:41 Der Bedienstete ging. Was David betrifft, er erhob sich aus der Nähe gegen Süden. Dann fiel er auf sein Angesicht zur Erde und verbeugte sich dreimal; und sie begannen einander zu küssen und umeinander zu weinen, bis David am meisten [geweint] hatte. 1.Samuel 20:42 Und Jonathan sprach darauf zu David: "Geh in Frieden, da wir, wir beide, im Namen Jehovas geschworen und gesagt haben: Möge es sich erweisen, daß Jehova selbst zwischen mir und dir ist und zwischen meinen Nachkommen und deinen Nachkommen bis auf unabsehbare Zeit." Demzufolge machte sich David auf und ging seines Weges, und Jonathan seinerseits kam in di Stadt. 1.Samuel 31:1 Nun kämpften die Philister gegen Israel, und die Männer Israels ergriffen die Flucht vor den Philistern, und sie fielen fortgesetzt, erschlagen auf dem Berg Gilboa. 1.Samuel 31:2 Und die Philister blieben dicht hinter Saul und seinen Söhnen; und die Philister schlugen Jonathan und Abinadab und Malkischus. Sauls Söhne, schließlich nieder. 2.Samuel 1:26 Ich bin bekümmert deinetwegen, mein Bruder Jonathan, Sehr angenehm warst du mir. Wunderbarer war mir deine Liebe als die Liebe von Frauen.

8 years 10 months ago
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Alienware

hey bozo. A dog and a child of 5 are not consenting. TRY AGAIN. and take your head out your backside and think again. Remember you too will be judged for your hatred when the final time comes...bible basher

9 years 1 week ago
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This must be the most boreing film I have ever sat through,why in the 21 century should this subject should be considered controversial, surley homosexuality is now regarded as a part of everyday life. Why would Ang Lee having employed Anne Hathaway, described by Garry Marshal as one of the most beautiful women in the world insist on frizzy blond hair and discoloured teeth, was he afraid the her natural beauty and talent would stand out from the crowd. If so then he failed as the only time this film came to life was when she appeared on screne, mind you if she had given birth to that baby I doubt if she would have been sitting up in bed with a smile on her face. What a pity he did not have the guts to follow through, he was quite happy to include a couple of female nude scenes which had nothing to do with the plot, but when it came to the main scene he upheld Holliwoods traditional two faced approach to male sex and nudity, and forgot to turn the lights on. Had they been Cow Girls I'am sure this scene would have been longer more explicit and well lit. Pity there is not an Oscar for the director the lacked the courage of his convictions, he would certainly have won that hands down.

8 years 11 months ago
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DaddyR

First off, the hate-speak is old. Find a new argument or better yet, re-read your Bible. Nowhere will you find support for your hatred and contempt. As for the movie, I can't wait (and actually might write) the next 20 years '1983 - 2003! Ledger and Gyllenhaal did a respectable job of portraying the angst and self-imposed fear and alienation of their characters. It most certainly captured the spirit and societal commentaries of the times. Having spent the past 23 years with the same man (beginning in 1983 where the movie ends), growing and evoving into the person I am today - father, mentor, friend, provider, and yes Christian - I certainly applaud those that have come before me. This is a movie that had to be made. It must be seen and it must incite the type of commentary we have seen. The walls of prejudice and injustice will come down one brick at a time.

8 years 12 months ago
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Oh My God! What's wrong with you people?It's just a damn movie. IT'S NOT REAL. I think Gyllenhaal and Ledger gave the performances of their lives, the cast is great, the story's touching and that's what makes it a great movie. Maybe it is sick, but it's quite good.

8 years 11 months ago
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PLEASE see BBM in a new theater with an excellent sound system... Friends in different cities could not understand most of what came out of Ennis' mouth. They were robbed...this is a film that is subtle as if to flirt with you and then it begins to sail away with you as a part of their experience..not an easy thing to pull off. The way this great story is told is the magic.....it slowly grabs you and makes you care about all four people and then haunts you after for days. PLEASE SEE IT AND DECIDE FOR YOURSELF, NOW as to these hate sputtering fools who claim to speak for God and Jesus........well jeeeze if they had been in the theater with me when I saw BBM in okla city and they had been rude or hateful, the audience would have kicked them out...OKLAHOMA not liberal Hollywood

8 years 12 months ago
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I've watched guys kiss on SIX FEET UNDER. It isnt pleasing to me, but I can live with it. However, I hate agenda driven movies and while if these two guys were some nomad sheep herders who got a little lonely o.k. That hs been happening for centuries I imagine. I wish they had previewed the movie about being SHEEP HERDERS instead of Cowboys. Nobody wants to hear about gay cowboys unless maybe Ali G. I cant get beyond the constant effort and lobby group to make homo's more special than hetero. My loss??

8 years 11 months ago
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This movie was amazing in that it had people discussing it for hours after seeing it. A great story line, with incredible performances, by both Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal! It went a lot deeper than just being about two men being in love. Unfortunately there are many ignorant people out there who, without even seeing the film, have to express their coments, filled with hatred....Oh well, it's their loss.....

9 years 3 weeks ago
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Alienware

Not seen the film and not gay either, but i have come to realise that what people dont understand or is alien to them, they mock and preach hatred to make them feel better, because they are the ideal human being that we should all strive to be. 3 people on here who have mocked are probably unhappy in their relatshionships, single and cant get a lay, and most definately have not been in love before and with that person now. If they had they would know that love has no boundaries. As long as man is alive on this earth we will have to live and put up with bible bashings, ignorant fools who also think that dinosaurs dont exist because it doesnt feature in the bible. I rest my case. I am actually quite flattered if a bloke shows interest. It may not be my thing, but im not a t**t about it, my life is good and im happy, so want to be happy for eveyone else who harms no one.

9 years 2 weeks ago
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Ok, a love story?Humpcrack Mounting...with 2 charactors named Jack-off and Annis!Is the touching part when one of them pulls it out and has to wipe the human waste off of his unit?Oh yes, what a loving touching story...Be sure and tilt your head to the left and sigh when you respond to this. My God this world has gone to hell!

9 years 3 weeks ago
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its because of people like the two above that this world will never be free of prejustice and hate. These people need to think about how their comments reflect upon themselves and how they impact upon others.I think te film sounds like it will be groundbreaking and hopefully one of those landmarks that can change the views of a generation.

9 years 3 weeks ago
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What two consenting adults choose to do is thwir business. As long as they're not doing it to you, why are you bothered.There's no proof that God exists. People throughout history have believed many various Gods and Godesses, What makes you so sure YOURS in the true God?You have as much chance as they have of being correct.Vagina sex isn't exactly without risks.May I also remind you Christians that Jesus (according to your precious) Bible cast aspertions on anyone. Maybe you should do the same.Christians are supposed to be loving but you two just sound hateful.

9 years 4 weeks ago
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I had not seen the film until recently, I thought it would be a story about gay people. What a mistake! It is the best film I have ever seen about true love, longing, personal happiness, social boundaries... There are so many things to say about this film and the feelings it evokes! I feel like in trance since I have seen this film.Heath Ledger was a present of life to this earth!

6 years 8 months ago
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Poor dear God.!!!! If He only knew the things they do and say in His name!!!! Or, does He?? By the way, have you actually read what all those king bastards did , not to mention the rest of those funny characters in the Book.......

8 years 11 months ago
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butterwouldntmelt

Ah bless the reviewers above for their comments.Clearly their homophobic attitudes are clouding their judgement here..It's great that,finally, a mainstream film can tackle this subject in such an honest and intelligent manner. Gay people do exist - shame small town America can't wake up - the rest of the world has ;) if they place such a strong belief in a book that was made up 1000's of years ago surely they are open to anything? Clearly not..Ryan, London

9 years 2 weeks ago
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japa

fantastic love story - if you dont like the subject, dont go - simple as that. live and let live.

9 years 1 month ago
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hey bozo

So all of you enlightened homosexuals would have no problem with me having sex with my dog or how about a young child of 5.Hey as long as it doesn't affect you what's the difference? What I do behind closed doors is my business,right.WRONG.It's morally reprehensible and disgusting.You can justify your actions until doomsday and if you sleep better because of it fine,but the 90 odd percent of society who think it's disgusting,the silent majority,are still here.Let's have a big round of applause for breaking those boundaries,(yawn).

9 years 2 weeks ago
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Doesitmatter

coyote.. why dont you learn how to spell

8 years 12 months ago
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eastexas

OK... let me get this straight. Two guys discover what its like to bypass their concience and engage in acts of sodomy. Do they show the damage done to the anal tissue? Do they tell us about the damage done to the immune system when sperm is enjected into the lower digestive cannal? Do they drink each others piss? Oh my, give me a tissue... this movie makes me want to cry. Its so tender, so sensitive, so... so... sick.Repent or perish.

9 years 1 month ago
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I have something else to say.I totally love this movie, and I'm a Christian, so that’s not really the point. I really don't think is right to be gay, or at least it's something I would never be.But I strongly believe that I have no right to judge them, and I don't discriminate anybody, whether their gay, black, white, Chinese, or Latin or whatever, because at the end of the day we're all people and we’re all the same… we all have our own problems and lives to deal with and honestly, what the hell do we care if our neighbor is sleeping with the mailman? Anyway, as some of the above said, if you don’t like the subject don’t watch the movie. I personally think it’s great. And not for nothing got eight academy awards nomination.*-*

8 years 11 months ago
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